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2/4 deep river, i cant call... 2/4 deep river, i cant call...

05-21-2010 , 07:35 AM
co plays 63/21/5% 3bet AF 2.6, i have 100hands on him...
he snap shoved the river.
who calls/folds? what do you expect to see ?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Poker Stars
SB ($460)
BB ($312)
UTG ($1,062)
Hero ($835)
CO ($853)
BTN ($400)

Dealt to Hero K 8 J J

UTG raises to $12, Hero calls $12, CO calls $12, fold, SB calls $10, BB calls $8

FLOP ($60) 3 J K

SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $40, CO calls $40, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls $40

TURN ($180) 3 J K 2

UTG checks, Hero bets $165, CO calls $165, UTG calls $165

RIVER ($675) 3 J K 2 5

UTG checks, Hero bets $216, CO raises to $636 (AI)
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05-21-2010 , 07:49 AM
i dont think 63/21's bluff much in this spot. i expect to see a straight very very often.
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05-21-2010 , 07:55 AM
AK4T with two hearts or AQT4

I bet more on the flop, pot the turn and shove the river though..

The only thing thats weird is that he snapshoves, I dont think he will do that with other than some kind og 46xx combo, K46x, TQ46 etc type of hands...

Were we a bit deeper i might call, but I just puke and fold and bet more next time
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05-21-2010 , 08:34 AM
Serious question,

Anyone would prefer a check/call here ? As we almost have it all, KJJ on KJ board I believe he is way more likely to have a busted draw like QTxx than a hand he will be able to pay us off with. And since he is a fish I'd expect a bluff on the river more often than a reg no ?

And I think bet/folding is probably right against a loose passive
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05-21-2010 , 08:47 AM
i rly dont mind CC here either, gotta know hes a guy who will bluff at it though
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05-21-2010 , 09:02 AM
must call given your bet size on the river and that he snapped imo.
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05-21-2010 , 09:17 AM
This is a must call unless you are some kind of superuser
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05-21-2010 , 10:13 AM
def calling.. random bluffs are greater than random backdoor straights, and you are getting too good odds.
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05-21-2010 , 10:16 AM
Why are you betting the river?
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05-21-2010 , 10:23 AM
also I bet larger on flop
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05-21-2010 , 10:30 AM
I would fold this against a reg I have good reads on or someone I perceive to be nitty (obv). With those odds and against a random with those stats I am happy to call here. I don't even try to put him on a range I just click call.
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05-21-2010 , 11:24 AM
c/c. But as played, you can fold given your bet size, stack sizes and pot size
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05-21-2010 , 12:10 PM
i bet river for value.
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05-21-2010 , 12:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DPred123
c/c. But as played, you cant fold given your bet size, stack sizes and pot size
fmp
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05-22-2010 , 03:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacharrrr
i bet river for value.
obv, no one thinks it's a bluff
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