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03-18-2010 , 06:19 PM

Smokiijas2000

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Poker Stars $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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Hero (BB): $1186.40
UTG: $57.10
MP: $237.10
CO: $403.00
BTN: $238.00
SB: $500.90

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BB with A

2 folds, CO raises to $14, 2 folds, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($30.00) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $28.50, Hero raises to $114, CO raises to $370.50, Hero raises to $627, CO calls $18.50 all in

Turn: ($808.00) T

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($808.00) J

(2 players - 1 is all in)

me and this villian has been goin to war the last hour. I get aces oop so i 3b because hes got 100b. on the flop I guess I can b/f but he might float or raise me with this board anyways. I know if I check he will always bet so I decided to let him take a stab n get the money in with a c/r.

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03-18-2010 , 06:32 PM

Th3_S1aught3r

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It looks fine, but I would make the raise on the flop a little bit smaller. You are making it too obviously that you are never folding this hand

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03-18-2010 , 06:33 PM

Nacek

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you flatted pre

sleepy?

if hes a little bit tilted and gets it in with sets on the flop then CR might be good , u re only crushed if he has 63xx

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03-18-2010 , 06:37 PM

Nacek

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Originally Posted by Th3_S1aught3r

It looks fine, but I would make the raise on the flop a little bit smaller. You are making it too obviously that you are never folding this hand

very good point i keep making this same mistake over and over my self.. hope it stops from now on..

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03-18-2010 , 07:01 PM

Smokiijas2000

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Th3_S1aught3r....... thanks for advising me to 3bet oop more especially under 100bb. Its change my game alot

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03-19-2010 , 01:50 AM

antchev

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Your title is super misleading, I don't see how the fact that you have AAxx has any influence on the flop except for the fact that you have blockers to the 2nd nuts and the only 3bet in the hand is made by CO on the flop. Start 3-betting pre those aces from time to time, flop is standard.

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03-19-2010 , 06:31 AM

spino1i

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I dont think flop is standard at all. If this was 3-bet pot, ok yeh get it in, but this is a single-raised pot I would not be stacking off here. c/c flop is vastly superior.

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03-19-2010 , 07:41 AM

Borys313

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There is nothing standard about this hand begining from not 3beting preflop which of course isnt mandatory but preferable.

I dont see how can geting in flop can not be a spew, hero comits himself for 400 when there is only 50 in the pot and he can easily draw dead against 63xx, obv 63xx isnt the most likely hand villian will get in but still.

Just go check/call on flop and probably c/raise turn, there are hardly any cards that can ruin your hand if its good on flop.

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03-19-2010 , 09:18 AM

Th3_S1aught3r

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but he said "me and this villian has been goin to war the last hour". Isnt he more likely to get it in light?

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03-19-2010 , 09:51 AM

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Alea

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You line is OK, even in a single raised pot. You have to be sure of the dynamic otherwise we can be folding out too many worse hands, which is a disaster.

This seems like a good flop flop texture to c/c flop then c/r turn, with a very aggro dynamic this can work well.

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03-19-2010 , 10:11 AM

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rafi

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I don't like to c/c here, your hand is good, but not that good to let villain take a free card, if the dinamic was crazy I see him stacking off pretty light here...

Last edited by rafi; 03-19-2010 at 10:12 AM. Reason: I'm saying that the flop was well played for me

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03-19-2010 , 11:33 AM

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Alea

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With a c/r we are polarizing out range to straights and wraps that we are not folding and air. If this is the case, how are we playing our medium strength hands?

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03-19-2010 , 11:59 AM

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CZI

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Thread title is so wtf.

Given the right dynamics, I guess this is one of the rare occasions where it could be correct to C/R get it in with the idiot end straight in a single raised pot.

Agree on the raise smaller suggestion if this makes him more likely to spazz out.

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03-19-2010 , 01:18 PM

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DJilago

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I think donkbetting the flop is ok too. but you have to donk these type of boards with air too sometimes and be willing to double barrel

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03-19-2010 , 05:53 PM

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BenG2813

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Why not just flat the flop and stack off on turn?

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03-19-2010 , 05:55 PM

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BenG2813

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Originally Posted by Th3_S1aught3r

but he said "me and this villian has been goin to war the last hour". Isnt he more likely to get it in light?

Ya, that's a good point. With that I would be raising small enough so it looks like i can still fold.

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03-19-2010 , 06:18 PM

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Borys313

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Originally Posted by Th3_S1aught3r

but he said "me and this villian has been goin to war the last hour". Isnt he more likely to get it in light?

Yes that helps to get in lighter, also villian is more likely to show up with 678x or even random 67xx there which also helps to get in light, meh I dont know 3bet pre would make this hand so much easier.

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