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11-28-2011 , 06:50 AM

Doorbread

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btn is loose / bad bb is supposedly laggy reg according to hem but when we start tables he was really nitty. flop? turn?

[converted_hand][hand_history]On Game, $2/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11153222

BB: $492.80 (246.4 bb)
BTN: $90.30 (45.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $331.50 (165.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

BTN raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, BB calls $18, BTN calls $14

Flop: ($60) 2

(3 players)
Hero bets $35, BB raises to $80, BTN calls $70.30 and is all-in, Hero calls $45

Turn: ($290.30) 8

(3 players, 1 is all-in)
Hero

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11-28-2011 , 09:45 AM

j.a.o.p.

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sizing otf is good...
but i`d b/f as bb is showing real strength.
as played,c/c or c/f depending on bb`s sizing,
imo u have 0 FE,so lead/get it in or c/r is bad

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11-28-2011 , 09:50 AM

luckychewy

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is flop close the 2nd time around? think u have plenty on 67xx hands so jamming turn looks best considering ur not folding anyway, right?

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11-28-2011 , 12:42 PM

gimmick122

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I'd probably just fold flop. As played, jam turn.

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11-28-2011 , 01:20 PM

TGSM89

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Originally Posted by luckychewy

is flop close the 2nd time around? think u have plenty on 67xx hands so jamming turn looks best considering ur not folding anyway, right?

kinda close, i'd prob fold, although we are like 5% from direct odds if we assume only 6x makes best hand and if we bink 6 we prob stack him a decent amount... but he prob doesn't slow down much on turn so we can't realise our flop equity much

think I would c/get it in on turn, but is a thin play. leading turn is bad imo

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11-28-2011 , 01:25 PM

Roy

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i def. call flop 2nd time around

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11-28-2011 , 01:46 PM

ebarnet

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Fold flop, everything else is a guess

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11-28-2011 , 01:48 PM

Francis_MH

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Does button ever have A3** here, and if so can we make him fold by jamming? I'm leaning towards 'yes' on both, and makes me want to just jam here.

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11-28-2011 , 03:49 PM

krmont22

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if A3 makes a straight and iirc it does, he is not folding it.

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11-28-2011 , 03:57 PM

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99centsaddsup

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button cant fold as he is allin

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11-28-2011 , 04:31 PM

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donkeykong2

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no way he folds a straight. i think folding the flop is best.

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11-28-2011 , 06:12 PM

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Karls_Hungus

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I think everything is good up until this point. You can check the turn and comfortably fold if the BB ships, as weak as that sounds. With the dead side pot constituting 90% of the total pot, the BB's ship would mean that you have a max of 12 outs. Hes gonna check back whatever parts of his range are not 67, 36, and maybe A3/set.

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11-28-2011 , 06:15 PM

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TGSM89

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Originally Posted by Karls_Hungus

I think everything is good up until this point. You can check the turn and comfortably fold if the BB ships, as weak as that sounds. With the dead side pot constituting 90% of the total pot, the BB's ship would mean that you have a max of 12 outs. Hes gonna check back whatever parts of his range are not 67, 36, and maybe A3/set.

think people will ship a ton of 2 pairs for protection

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11-28-2011 , 06:20 PM

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Karls_Hungus

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protection against what? I think most are checking back 2 pairs because

a) they still may lose the main pot if the hero folds
b) hero could easily have 67xx and the BB would be betting his 2 pair into the nuts

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11-28-2011 , 06:58 PM

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TGSM89

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som1 with 4

or something like that are prob v likely to jam this turn because they don't want hero to scoop the main pot with hands that have reasonable equity (maybe hero's perceived range is something like AKQ5 or something like that - or tons of other hands that maybe have like 20-30%)..

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11-29-2011 , 12:13 AM

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gimmick122

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Originally Posted by Karls_Hungus

By jamming, I think we can often enough get a fold out of those check back hands like two pair, pair + straight draw, or the occasional overpair which have a bunch of equity against us. And even if we run into the top of BBs range, we have like 25%. If you're gonna c/f a card like 8d, why call flop?

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11-29-2011 , 02:18 AM

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Francis_MH

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Originally Posted by 99centsaddsup

button cant fold as he is allin

Obv meant BB. He's gotta at least consider folding A3 I think if he gets jammed into considering OP believes he's been nitty.

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