Hey guys,

This has been cropping up a bit lately, and could use a little advice.

I'm in a loose, aggressive game where I get about half my stack in preflop with AAxx and then proceed to get called multiway. Then bet into on the flop.

Last night:

5-5 PLO with $10 button straddle.

SB: calls $10,
BB: calls $10,
UTG: raises to $40
UTG+1: calls $40
Flux makes it $190 ($400 starting stack) with AA22

Everyone calls. Pot is about $960.

Flop: JJ8

SB and BB check, UTG checks, UTG+1 shoves ($600), and I have about $210 left.

Now, I know I'm getting over 5.5:1 on my money. That my SPR is negligible, and that general folklore suggests anything less than an SPR of 1 is pretty much a snap shove postflop with aces. But the villain likely has a jack, there are two other villains behind me, and there is a possibility most of my potential outs (runner-runner flushes, deuces) might already be useless.

This is a bit of an extreme case, but if someone could point to a post, or offer their thoughts on multiway, postflop scenarios with low SPRs and AAxx, I would be indebted.

All abuse appreciated.

Best,
Flux

(ps I basically gave myself 2 outs for the Aces (8%) and half the outs for the remainder, one out for the flush draws (4%), and one out for the deuces (4%) ... for 16% equity. And a crying call.)

All you gotta do is win one out of every 6.5 times to break even. Get it in, not even worth discussing. Also, don't play live PLO so short.

Fair enough, however given that I require about 15% equity to win one out of 6.5 x ... and my estimation of my effective outs is about 16% ... if the pot was only giving me 4.5:1 on my money, would it be a fold?

Or, should I not discount any outs in this scenario, and give myself 6 full outs for 24% equity, allowing a break even call even were the pot laying 3:1?

Thanks!

never short stack a game like this. you can call pre which i think is much better than reraising and folding flop. villian could have 78910 or something where we are still live esp in an aggressive game. best move...fold flop, leave table, request $200 cashout in $1s, and head to Spearmint Rhino

exactly this

gii

Best. Advice. Ever.

/end thread.

(ps I did end up calling, spiked a deuce on the river, and scooped a pot that will undoubtedly find it's way into Frosty's college fund.)