10/10 PLO 9 handed
Hero: Young white guy sitting at around $5k (doubled up twice in first orbit). Tight immage, most likely perceived as villain as a decent reg. Does not have a bluffy image.
Villain: 25-30y/o semi-regular at local casino sitting at $1.5k down a bit tonight due to running really bad, does not seem too tilted though.
4 ppl limp in early position, button who has been raising around 75% of hands makes it 40 (limpers have been limp calling not limp reraising so far). I look down at A533 and call the 40. Limpers call.
(Button is a big fish calling and bluffing a lot)
Flop QQ8 (210)
I checks rest checks though (button c-bets a lot multiway 50%+)
Turn QQ85 (210) I bet 120$ (planning on barreling non heart non 9+ rivers) two ppl fold villain calls rest folds.
River: (450) QQ853
What would be my best move here? I check fairly quick, villain bets 440...?

If your goal is to make $, your best move is to drop down in stakes...I like nothing about your play here.

I'm no expert but I don't like calling a raise with this many players with this hand.

If I did call, is be looking to exit the hand as cheaply as possible.

Easy money

You seem to think everyone is capped when they're not

The only hand you can beat is Qxxx turning into a bluff but most people don't do that with so much showdown value.

It's funny that your plan was to bluff into "capped" ranges, yet check when you get there lmao.

Don't call preflop, aside from the nut suit your hand is god awful multiway, you can expect a tonne of reverse implied odds when hitting bottom set & a bunch of dominated straight draws.

Post flop don't start barreling off into 87 players and their dogs. You don't even have to worry about being exploitable or anything, you just often have close to 0% fold equity when the entire London Philharmonic Orchestra decides to see a flop at your table. River you need to just bet/ fold, it may not even be the best option but it's a better game plan than checking with the intention of standing up, pacing the poker room and muttering to yourself when someone pots it.

Thanks for the comments, agree with all of them. Called pre because the raiser preflop was a big mananic and could hit some gin flops like +sd+fd or set+sd etc. and win loads (he covered). River I felt like letting villain bluff with missed draws would be good, but when he bet it felt more value heavy, I was thinking bluffs would bet smaller.

Overall I was not sure what to do on any street from pre-river in this hand and felt like the worst played hand of the session forsure so decided to get some more thoughts from oyu guys. Thanks

With the worst full-house possible you essentially have a bluff-catcher - based on this action I don't see how he is bluffing, expect to see slow-played Q8 a lot of the time.

You really need to fold this pre-flop to a raise when you are OOP, it's a leak regardless of the player dynamics. Let's say you do hit your set+sd and the flop is:

3-4-10 w/2 spades

or

3-4-6 rainbow

Do you really feel that great about your hand? I wouldn't, you could be getting crushed multiple ways on both. You pretty much need to flop 2-4-x with two diamonds to feel great about the flop (besides quads) and if you did hit the flop that hard you would kill all the action because you murdered the deck (either everyone folds or you end up against a set that knows you are on a multi-draw).

You don't typically beat maniacs for massive pots by playing average hands OOP for raises. They will give you so many opportunities to stack them you can let this stuff go every time.

I disagree with basically everyone in the thread. It's all very marginal but I think it's fine. River im close to vbetting/check calling. Turn is fine as long as you aren't doing it too often with other parts of your range... this seems like a very decent bluff combo. Pre is close but not nearly as bad as people are saying.

I would call, I am pretty confused by villain's line and if he found a flop check with Q8 so be it.

Yep, I think we played ourselves into a call here as well. Why are we not barreling a hearts River here? I think a contributing factor that we 'can' call here is that we bet into a heart on the Turn. Perhaps suggesting we have Qx and hearts and missed? Does that allow enough other AQxx hands to bet out?

Now we have to range a 'decent reg' ... Does a decent reg raise 'to protect' Q8/Q5 on the Turn? Or do they flat and let the flushes get there, especially when donked into? This is close, but I'm leaning towards protecting knowing that they're down for the session and can't GII on River without more being in the pot. We can also consider 55/88 that will bet out on the River, trying to get a call from a Qx that missed.

So now we can put more Qx type of hands into their range. Hero has shown weakness by betting Turn small and checking River. V may assume that Hero is going to fold anyway so he pots River with Qx as a bluff.

Hero checks 'quick' and opens the door up for V to do anything. There's plenty we are behind, but I think there are some cases where I might even be confident with a call here the way it was played based on the V description. I'm expecting to see more 55/88 than I am Q8 the way the action went. GL

Check call river is perfect play.

What were the results of the hand?

He’s probably bluffing and/or won’t call, but I’d re-raise pot and hope he slowplayed QA unboated or talks himself into a call with JJ-AA and also to annoy him and not let him see your hand. You do run the risk he slowplayed Q8 or quad Q’s and snaps you off, or calls with 55, but you also get the added benefit of likely often making him fold 55 if he has it. I like checking river to induce bluffs.

Fold pre, c/f flop+turn, as played blockbet/f river unless he is aggro vs smallbets then instead c/f to reasonable size

Pre-flop is probably okay. If I was a very good player I’d call, if I was an okay player I’d fold being OOP with a weakish hand.

I’d just check and fold the turn. The likelihood of picking this pot up with a bet is slim and you might be drawing dead.

As played I’d call the river expecting to win ~30-40% of the time. If you get to show the winner this hand should help you long term.

I don't usually play these stakes, but when you are likely to see the hand 5-way OOP, I wouldn't be that concerned about one player being a donk or maniac.

I also think you are over valuing this type of hand. Low pairs are generally not good in Omaha. You can make a lot lower straights, sets, boats, two pairs etc. with this low hand.