1/2/5 PLO w/ half the table $10 straddling.
Stacks $600 effective. Most people sitting with $1k+ but I just lost a big pot and hadn't reloaded, yet.
Table is raise/limp happy, everyone seeing lots of flops.

This hand is straddled, MP raises to $35.
Hero BB w/ As10s10h8h calls $30.
Straddler calls $25 more.

Flop Ac Js 9h
Rainbow, but we flop top pair, open-ended straight draw, two back-door flush draws. OOP.
Hero checks.
UTG checks.
MP bets $75.
Hero calls $75. (Is this ever a raise here? Based on his play, original raiser could have any Ace or any type of draw, even just a Qx10x67 type hand. He likes stabbing at pots. But if we get re-shipped here with two-pair we have to fold with a lot of equity so I thought flat is best.)
UTG calls $75.

Flop Ac Js 9h Qh Pot ~$340
We hit our straight but K10 beats us. However, we hold two 10s to block that. Pick up heart flush draw.

Hero checks.
UTG bets $150.
MP folds.

Hero ???

We have $500 left. We have 2nd best straight and a flush draw, and we block the nut straight. I feel like all of fold/shove/call are on the table. If we think we're good we should decide right now and jam it? Villian is certainly capable of bluffing here with random 10x hands and has been pushing chips around all night. He has a tendency to just pot bet anytime he has nutty hands so I thought the $150 was a little weird.

Or should we just flat here and fold to another river bet that doesn't change the board but jam any heart? That seems a little nitty against agro opponents.

FWIW the best player at the table (whom I chat with about hands regularly) said he would have just jammed the turn and not checked. I'm not sure I love that, either).

all in with the blockers

I'd ship considering you have two tens,he can have a lot of sets and you have a fd

Jack of hearts one time!

=)


I guess I played it right, then... I did end up shipping over his raise since it was only $300 more or so.

He flipped up K10 with no heart draw or board pairs. I win with any heart.

We got some overkill on the river. Dealer flipped up the Jack of Hearts. Not kidding!!! First straight flush I've made in PLO (live or online) in a year. And it scooped me $1200 pot. He thought I one-outted him and went on a rant, lol.

Pretty sweet result but I'm concerned the shove wasn't great, that's why I posted. Sounds like it was correct to just go with it given stack sizes, that I had the second made straight, heavily blocked the nuts, and still had heart outs.

Several other people said I should have just called the turn bet. The pro I respect said I should have just jammed turn instead of checking. And you guys here are saying check/jamming was correct. One nit at the table said it was "obvious" he had K10 and I should have folded (lol). So many opinions so thought I'd post for clarification.

Usually you want to wait a day before posting results so others can chime in w/o seeing them.

With stack size, check/shove was fine.

keep in mind people love to tell others they're bad or how "obvious" something is after the fact.

I agree with the fact that having TT makes villains range more weighted to 2p/ sets so jamming is fine.

Bet the turn.

You are not deep and you have the 2nd nut straight and a redraw, and against only 2 players. You want to get all in; folding is out of the question unless its Mother Theresa betting.
Pot is $340 and you have only $500. You don't gain much more by check raising vis-a-vis betting, and having it checked around is bad, both players likely have 20%-25% equity and you gain A LOT by facing them with a bet. Everybody can see the Q hits that board hard; discouraging another CBet.

A side benefit is you get to see the 1st dude with the big stack squirm under pressure from the squeeze.

If you were deep against more players, then it is "awkward"; except when they check around to the villain you described.

If you are hoping a set will fold you are better off potting turn rather than check raising. Once he bets and you reraise he may feel committed.

I'm the nit who would consider folding on the flop. I'd consider the probability that UTG will c/r as part of my decision.

You have raised pre, if you are going to check this flop I like a checkraise a lot at these stack sizes.

I expect a checkraise to take it down a lot (how much does the bettor like all his hands when you convincingly represent AA?) and almost always forces the third player to fold a bunch of hands that currently have you beat (Axxx better kickers) and puts tremendous pressure on third player's inside straight draws.

In other words... when you raise you generally take it down, or get heads-up and now have the best hand or the best draw. You either go with it on the flop if he jams, or jam turn into him if he flats.

IMO that's a much better spot to be in with your hand than a murky 3-way turn.