Hi guys I played a hand that had an interesting outcome tonight and want your thoughts on the turn. Villain is a pro who talks a lot about equities, ev, etc. He showed up to the game late tonight about 3 hours before closing and bought in for 2000. He is about even on the session. I have seen that he is capable of betting weaker hands or bluffs that he has snap folded to a raise.

Hero just lost the previous hand where he potted preflop, potted the flop and was shoved on for a bit more by a short stacker. Hero mucked at showdown so our image is weak. Hero has about 700 to start the hand and V covers.

2 limps to hero in mp with Ac2c2dKh and hero pots to 25. V calls on the button as do 4 others.

Flop ~130
KsQh8h

Checks to hero who bets pot. V thinks for a it and calls.

Turn ~390
7c

I feel that V would have raised any monster draws, two pairs or sets on the flop. I also suspect he's going to bet this turn at a very high frequency when checked to. If I pot it, I'm going to have an awkward stack size to play oop on a lot of rivers. I want to check here. V checking back isn't a disaster, and if he bets we can check raise him all in. Is this spewy thinking? I just don't think V is going to have us beat here unless he hit two pair on the turn. And even in the worst case scenario we have the nut low draw.

I think you're being way too optimistic. Preflop I prefer a limp, your hand doesn't want to shut anyone out and it isn't really very good. As played check and crying call I guess. Also you don't have to bet pot it's probably a very poor sizing on that flop texture

Agreed, I'm not sure what you're trying to do w/ a PSB here besides get called by better or get folds or jammed on by worse. I probably wouldn't even bet flop to begin with; this looks like a decent hand for the check call bucket.

Agree with limp pre as well.

Play is standard. Check/fold turn.

Thanks for the input guys. I think I'm having difficult adopting a more defensive or cautious approach with my more marginal hands in this game as opposed to hold em. I'm actually considering not playing this game anymore and playing a microstakes online game to build skill as I've been unhappy with a lot of my play.

Results are that I checked and villain potted. I raised him all in and he called. River was 2h and I tabled my hand. He mucked and when counting out the chips began to grimace that he mucked a low but his hand was dead already. He then said he had a set and a low, but then corrected himself a few moments later and said "I didn't have a set, but I had you crushed though." In my experience people normally do this when they had a weak hand and are trying to make themselves seem superior. If he would have had, say, two pair he would have just said that. He lied about the set and then realized any set would have won.

I think my read on him was correct but I think it would be results oriented thinking to believe this was good play. Specifically, I think I need to focus more on playing in position, especially when coming in for a raise. This hand would have been much easier to play either in position or with $25 in the pot on the flop.

I don't play a ton of hi low, but this hand seems like a limp rather than raise to me. It really isn't that strong. If we hit our set it's unlikely we have a strong low to go along with the.

What?

Omaha Hi/Lo Hand Ranking (unweighted) ?

Rankings for Ac2cKd2h

Ranking Description Average Best Worst
10H 10-handed iterative 5.0 5.0 5.0
3H 3-handed iterative 9.0 9.0 9.0
6H 6-handed iterative 5.0 5.0 5.0
VR vs. random hand 16.0 16.0 16.0

that´s a vamos a la playa hand

I'm sorry but not sure I understand what this means. What do these numbers represent?

Percentile of the hand in various ring situations (10 handed, 6 handed, 3 handed, HU). Lower is better (5 = 5% of hands outperform it).

Thanks. Clearly this is a good hand then.

What the hell is everyone talking about, this is a great starting hand for 8/b. Ideally we'd have a suit, but this is a pot PF all day long.

This - no need to inflate the pot with this hand, maybe even fold pre