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04-07-2009 , 10:22 PM
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You bet on the 6th best team in the MLB last year to lose more than they would win?
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Rankings of teams last year:
Tampa Bay
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Chicago-Cubs
NYY
TOR
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Originally Posted by tercet
F the haters, we will have > 80 wins.
we shall see...
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04-07-2009 , 10:51 PM
dude needs to find the strike zone, and quick

Last edited by Lagtastic; 04-07-2009 at 10:52 PM. Reason: wowow wrong thread, never done that before
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04-08-2009 , 01:17 AM
The start of another disappointing season, i've never been so excited tho as i live right downtown this year! Should be fun.

2-0 imo!
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04-08-2009 , 02:32 AM
i'm kind of glad that i didn't get the game on tv tonight because i probably would have smashed everything in the house if i saw BJ blowing a save. somebody ****ing ban that clown.
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04-08-2009 , 02:55 AM
Hey guys,

Very cool thread, espec. the OP. I grew up in Waterloo and live in Miami now. Any idea how I can catch Jays games for free on the interwebz?
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04-08-2009 , 02:58 AM
I hope Purcey can win ~14, from the way he has been pitching in the Spring, it is def possible.

Although JP is due to trade one of our prospects for a borderline 3rd starter once Romero/Richmond eventually struggle....lol
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04-08-2009 , 09:24 AM
I didn't catch any of the game last night, but 2-0 is certainly a very nice start to the season. It'll all be for naught unless they can win at least one more of the next two against Detroit!
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04-08-2009 , 09:42 AM
BJ located his pitches very well, the one that Inge bombed to centrefield was a little up, maybe 8 inches above the knees, but was right on the outside corner if not a little outside. The Tigers broadcast radar had him throwing his fastball between 87-89 which is a bit of improvement from the spring where he was 84-86.

I don't understand the hate for Ryan, he was lights out his 1st year in Toronto, and then suffered an injury and had tommy john surgery which usually takes 2 years to recover from. (In most cases the pitcher's control takes 2 years to come back and they struggle the 1st year they return because the tendon in the elbow is still pretty loose) What is really weird is that usually a pitcher gains 1-2mph after tommy john surgery because they replace the elbow tendon with a stronger one in the leg, so seeing a drop in velocity is puzzling, but hopefully Ryan can recover and once again be one of the game's best closers.
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04-09-2009 , 01:56 PM
Uninspiring loss to the Tigers yesterday puts the Jays at 2-1 on the season. I didn't catch any of the game, but it looked like the Rogers Centre was absolutely dead. Attendance of only 12,145, down from 16,790 on Tuesday and 48,027 on opening day. Welcome back to another season of Blue Jays baseball!

Currently 2-1 for the Tigers in 5th inning of the get-away game. Romero has let up 7 hits so far but only two runs. It's not televised here so has anyone had a chance to see if he's at least looked good?
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04-09-2009 , 03:36 PM
it is televised if u got Rogers. Channel 401 or 390. mlb.com has a free preview as well.
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04-10-2009 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Vincepcion
I hope Purcey can win ~14, from the way he has been pitching in the Spring, it is def possible.

Although JP is due to trade one of our prospects for a borderline 3rd starter once Romero/Richmond eventually struggle....lol
I think the last thing JP is going to do is trade for starting pitching.

Cecil, Mills and Janssen are going to be ready in under a month, and there are 5 capable starters on the team now. Not sure why you assume Romero is going to start struggling. I was at the game today and he was great. Obviously, he's not going to be an all star but I think he's a capable major league starter.

McGowan/Marcum will be ready late this year, or certainly early next year.

That's 10 starters.

As for relievers, you have Accardo and Wolfe in Triple A, both of whom would be on most major league teams.

If anything, you're going to see JP trade AWAY pitching... but certainly not in the near future.

Ryan
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04-10-2009 , 01:54 AM
I was at the game today, Romero looked very good. Idk why the dome was closed today is was like 10-14 or so and really sunny.
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04-10-2009 , 01:56 AM
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Rays improved more than Red Sox imo.
The Rays "ran well" in several different areas last season and they're due for a pretty big regression (especially in the bullpen) - see: Troy Percival

Ryan
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04-10-2009 , 01:58 AM
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I was at the game today, Romero looked very good. Idk why the dome was closed today is was like 10-14 or so and really sunny.
Was coooool in the shade, especially cause it clouded over for a while. Way too cool to open dome Pudge come on :P
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04-10-2009 , 02:49 AM
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Not sure why you assume Romero is going to start struggling.
You do realize that he hasn't put up good numbers past high A-ball right? He's gonna hit a wall eventually. And if the Jays are in the playoff hunt come August and Marcum/McGowan/Jannssen aren't ready to start for us (with the former 2 most likely out for the year), then JP will probably rent a starter.

Obv with our stacked division it's not likely we are in the playoff hunt, but my original post was based on us making a run. IF this is the case he's not gonna throw Mills/Cecil into the fire. I think we have the talent, and Cito >>>> Gibby by a mile.
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04-10-2009 , 10:21 AM
Cheers! To good times...

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04-10-2009 , 12:23 PM
Theirs a 1% chance of JP trading for any starter, and other's stated we have a tons of starters. He will go through growing pains with them this year for next year.

Hopefully today's game doesn't get canceled due to crappy weather in Ohio.
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04-10-2009 , 01:25 PM
All this logical talk about what JP will or won't do is probably misplaced. As far as I can tell, he usually makes the worst possible decision.

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04-10-2009 , 01:45 PM
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Was coooool in the shade, especially cause it clouded over for a while. Way too cool to open dome Pudge come on :P
I just really hate the skydome when it is closed and think it is a solid stadium with the roof open. People still go to baseball games outside all over the northeast.

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The Rays "ran well" in several different areas last season and they're due for a pretty big regression (especially in the bullpen) - see: Troy Percival

Ryan
Ya I think the Rays will regress, but also improve. It will appear like they are keeping the status quo or slightly declining, but they are improving.
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04-10-2009 , 08:23 PM
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You do realize that he hasn't put up good numbers past high A-ball right? He's gonna hit a wall eventually. And if the Jays are in the playoff hunt come August and Marcum/McGowan/Jannssen aren't ready to start for us (with the former 2 most likely out for the year), then JP will probably rent a starter.

Obv with our stacked division it's not likely we are in the playoff hunt, but my original post was based on us making a run. IF this is the case he's not gonna throw Mills/Cecil into the fire. I think we have the talent, and Cito >>>> Gibby by a mile.
OK, so, who exactly are we going to trade for a starting pitcher? (Rhetorical question because it's just not going to happen)
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04-10-2009 , 09:02 PM
Yes romero was a fringe A player until mid last season. He would have been cut if he wasn't a 6th overall pick. But he somehow magically got his stuff together mid last season and got promoted to AAA. He's been alot better since, lets give him a month before you write him off.

also game will be back at 920
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04-10-2009 , 10:44 PM
best game of the season so far.
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04-10-2009 , 10:45 PM
The audible heckling was awesome.
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04-10-2009 , 10:51 PM
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most exciting game of the season so far.
correction.
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04-10-2009 , 10:53 PM
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best game of the season so far.
Yes, for those who have stuck around to watch it (both on TV and at the field).

Couple of great breaks for the Blue Jays in the top of the 8th. Millar falling on his way to 1st and yet he still made it there due to the 1B not picking up the throw from 2B. Excellent bunt by Bautista and then the little flair that dropped in from Scutaro. Breaks like that never seem to go the Jays way. Rios clutches up and knocks in a couple more, four on the game now for him.

Hopefully Downs + Ryan can shut this one down and build the bridge to Doc!
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