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11-19-2014 , 01:33 PM

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I don't mind the 5-year thing, but I wish I didn't know about it. Good five year free agent deals are pretty rare.

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11-19-2014 , 03:29 PM

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AA saying we won't go over 5 for Lester and he doesn't expect us to be in there as a result.

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11-19-2014 , 03:54 PM

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i mean the other side of this whole thing is our books are the envy of every team.

google cots baseball contracts and snoop around the league.

ours looks a hell of lot of better than most, if not every other team's.

our team suffers from a talent perspective, but we won't be paying guys like BJ Ryan 10 mill a year to sit at home and drink beer in their later years either.

Aren't the Mets still paying Bobby Bonilla?

Things like that

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11-19-2014 , 05:17 PM

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Juan Francisco claimed off waivers by the Red Sox today.

I will totally lose it next year if a Jays pitcher throws him a fastball.

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11-19-2014 , 07:23 PM

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I think Nick Cafardo is a massive hack, but he seems somewhat dialed in on Red Sox news. He's reporting that Sandoval is waiting on a decision and expecting a bid from us in the next 24 hours.

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11-19-2014 , 09:51 PM

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Yeah Cafardo is the worst, and there's no way Sandoval is worth anything anywhere near $90-100MM. If the Red Sox want to go that high, they can have him... unless the Jays just go HAM and sign everybody. I'd want Headley over Panda, and Scherzer* over Lester for that matter.

* The only upside I see to Lester over Scherzer is Lester seems way more likely to stay in the division, so signing Lester, assuming he's a 4 WAR pitcher, adds 4 WAR to us, but also removes 4 WAR from Boston or NY.

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11-23-2014 , 08:24 PM

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Am I the only one who doesn't want Melky back at anything but a premium price/term?

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11-23-2014 , 10:25 PM

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i think people are overreacting to how his offense is irreplacable or something

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11-23-2014 , 10:37 PM

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i think people are overreacting to how his offense is irreplacable or something

That's the thing...offense is the only thing he brings, and even that's a little superficial. I'd take him on a Butler contract, but I think he's getting more and I don't think I want us to be the ones who give it to him.

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11-23-2014 , 10:40 PM

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I'd be a lot more comfortable re-signing Melky if his defense wasn't so bad.

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11-23-2014 , 10:42 PM

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personally, i'd be a lot more comfortable letting him go if someone could name me a potential replacement.

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11-23-2014 , 11:05 PM

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Nick Markakis, he'd be cheaper, is way better on D, and would probably see his power numbers go up if he played for us.

I can't imagine his WAR would be that much lower than Melky's

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11-23-2014 , 11:13 PM

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thebigeasy59

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Go get me Justin Upton.

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11-23-2014 , 11:36 PM

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Gary Wise

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Nori Aoki comes to mind. Could also see us trading Happster or Dioner for OF help.

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11-24-2014 , 12:03 AM

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Susan Slusser reporting the A's are shopping John Jaso amongst others and that they're interested in Sean Nolin. Makes sense if we trade Navarro, I suppose? I'd take him as Martin's backup/occasional LF/occasional DH.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/1...d-hitters.html

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11-24-2014 , 10:24 PM

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Gary Wise

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Morosi says we're looking at Jay Bruce. Yes please!

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11-24-2014 , 11:10 PM

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GTBMuckface

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yeah thatd be sick, we look at everyone tho

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11-25-2014 , 05:16 PM

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Gary Wise

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A closer look at Bruce makes him a little less appealing...still think there's some likely bounceback there though.

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11-25-2014 , 05:53 PM

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...oh, and he has a no-trade clause naming us. So there's that.

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11-25-2014 , 10:43 PM

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thebigeasy59

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Usually looking at something like guaranteeing that option or turning it in to a player option in order to waive the NTC

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11-26-2014 , 12:11 AM

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i've read the fangraphs piece "jay bruce bottoms out" and the stoeten post on bruce, and i gotta say i think it's a terrible idea to trade for him. sure he's gonna bounce back from his horrible -1 WAR season, but even if he's 2.5 WAR better, he won't even be worth his contract. so even as a straight salary dump, that would be a bad move, but it's not my money so w/e. my problem with it is that I saw some tweet today (forgot who it was from) that said the price to pay would be one of stroman/sanchez/norris. no thanks. i think it would be the first AA deal i really hate right from the start.

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11-26-2014 , 12:24 AM

#10022

Gary Wise

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I'd bet good money that all of Sanchez, Norris, Hutch and Stro with be with us in spring training.

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11-26-2014 , 12:58 AM

#10023

El Rata

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i certainly hope you're right

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11-26-2014 , 07:43 AM

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thebigeasy59

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Yeah I think they have a really hard time moving any of those guys unless it's for a Hamels deal or something fairly major like that.

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11-28-2014 , 10:50 PM

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Gary Wise

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Holy ****! So happy!!

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