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03-26-2010 , 08:33 PM
I've been against trading McNabb but I just read that the Raiders have apparently offered us Nnamdi for him! That would be hard to turn down (although not sure who else would have to be involved in the deal). A secondary with Asante/Nnamdi at corner and Brown/Mikell at safety would be beastly. How awful would it be for 5 to have to finish his career in Oakland though?
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03-26-2010 , 08:46 PM
I just creamed my pants. This can't be true, can it?
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03-26-2010 , 11:46 PM
Im not really buying it...But I would also have to change my pants....
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03-27-2010 , 12:43 AM
I mean...if offered nmandsaiig asmfdajfd or however you spell GOD in Cornerback, why haven't they snap-called this?
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03-27-2010 , 01:20 AM
apparently his contract is iffy...1 year for big money and then some condition saying that he has to be paid top-5 money to follow it up? IDK I heard it on ESPN.com and I was really tired.
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03-27-2010 , 01:28 AM
Lol nnamdi for Mcnabb is like the Pujols for Howard rumor for the Phillies. Can't see how it would ever happen but it's obv the snap call of all snap calls.

The one thing we have going for us is that we are talking about Al Davis and the Raiders, so I suppose all manner of stupidity is at least somewhat possible. But still, not even getting my hopes up for this one, as unbelievably awesome as it'd be.
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03-27-2010 , 02:49 AM
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apparently his contract is iffy...1 year for big money and then some condition saying that he has to be paid top-5 money to follow it up? IDK I heard it on ESPN.com and I was really tired.
Oh noes, having to pay the best cornerback in the league top-5 cornerback money, the horror, the horror!

Ship Al Davis Being A Complete ****** One Time Please?!
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03-27-2010 , 02:51 AM
Fun hypothetical question:

Would you rather have the #33 pick in the draft (Rams 2nd rounder) or Nnamdi Awesomeua for one year (assume 100% chance he leaves after one year for some reason)?
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03-27-2010 , 03:34 AM
What are the odds the #33 pick in the draft ever even becomes capable of being close to playing at the level of nnamdi for 1 year?
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03-27-2010 , 04:03 AM
Awesomeua for McNabb is a snap trade on a team with a decent enough prospect to take over at QB.

The hypothetical 1 year Awesomeua for the #33... I'd have to go with no, unless you really believe your team is exactly one awesome CB short of winning the Lombardi.

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What are the odds the #33 pick in the draft ever even becomes capable of being close to playing at the level of nnamdi for 1 year?
Low, but the #33 is high enough to give you a reasonable chance to get a solid player or a raw talent with huge upside, that you can keep 3-5 years for relatively cheap. Is one year with an elite CB worth passing on the chance to fortify your team for a good while with, say, a DeMeco Ryans or a Karlos Dansby? How about a Drew Brees? It's just too high a pick for a one year guy, unless you know he's the missing piece. imo
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03-27-2010 , 04:18 AM
Of course you'd rather have Karlos Dansby for 5 years than Awesomeua for 1 year... but you'd rather have Awesomeua for 1 year than Scrubby McBustpick for 3 years, after which you release him.
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03-27-2010 , 06:30 AM
Well there's going to be a lot of busts where you get no value out of the pick, but then again even NA could have a down year or miss 6 games with an injury or whatever. And even he was picked only two spots from #33... all told there's still too much value there for me.

Again I think that you can maybe justify it in a now-or-never superbowl contender scenario. The vast majority of cases though, the highest draftee on the board there is the way I'd have to go.
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03-27-2010 , 06:38 AM
And fwiw, these are the past 20 #33s drafted. Fairly results oriented, but very few are busts. Some are longtime decent starters, a couple ran bad. Then again there's some pretty awesome players on this list, some of whom were instrumental in getting their squads to the Superbowl.

Point being there's a lot of potential value that high. It's worth more than a one year FA to me, even a fantastic one. Anyway, the list:

1990 Fred Earl Washington (died car accident rookie year)
1991 Brett Favre
1992 Marquez Pope
1993 Ryan McNeil
1994 Issac Bruce
1995 Matt O'Dwyer
1996 Tony Brackens
1997 Rob Kelly
1998 Corey Chavous
1999 Charles Fisher (tore his his ACL, MCL and PCL first game as a rookie, ended career… ****)
2000 Darren Howard, lol

2001 Quincy Morgan – [Note: I got #33 confused with the first pick in the 2nd round that year which was #32, was not Brees. But I will point out the 3 picks immediately before and after #33 that year. In order drafted: Reggie Wayne, Todd Heap, Drew Brees, Kyle Vanden Bosch, Alge Crumpler, and Ocho Cinco.]

2002 Jabbar Gaffney
2003 Eric Steinbach
2004 Karlos Dansby
2005 David Baas
2006 DeMeco Ryans
2007 Alan Branch
2008 Donnie Avery
2009 Louis Delmas

You put these names in a hat and I'd take my chances picking over having NA for a single season all day long. (I run bad, so I'd get the dead guy, but w/e).
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03-27-2010 , 10:22 AM
I'll be sad to see McNabb go, even if it is prob the best thing for the team. But if the eagles get Awesome-O locked up for a longtime deal in exchange, the blow will be softened. Seriously, snap accept that trade.
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03-27-2010 , 02:52 PM
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Oh noes, having to pay the best cornerback in the league top-5 cornerback money, the horror, the horror!

Ship Al Davis Being A Complete ****** One Time Please?!
PF - I'm searching for a link, but heard that the clause is that he would be paid top 5 CB money in the first year as a franchise player, but if he were franchised a 2nd year, it would switch to top 5 QB money.

Also, I would take the #33 over 1 year of Nnamdi in this situation considering that I don't think he puts them over the top next year. Historically, the top half of the 2nd round has had great value and that should be especially true in a deep draft.

edited for link: http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/19/asom...-with-raiders/

Last edited by SMB; 03-27-2010 at 02:55 PM. Reason: linkage itt
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03-27-2010 , 05:17 PM
Oh, woah. So yeah, it would probably only be for 1 year, and I agree that I would rather have the 33rd pick.
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03-28-2010 , 02:40 AM
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Oh noes, having to pay the best cornerback in the league top-5 cornerback money, the horror, the horror!

Ship Al Davis Being A Complete ****** One Time Please?!
I was tired man, I might have ****ed up that report
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03-28-2010 , 05:49 AM
Nnamdi is the type of player that, if you hold rights to him for one year or 5 minutes, you do whatever you need to in order to sign him long term. If he wants to be paid like the #1 CB hey, fine. Same with Peyton Manning, DeMarcus Ware, or any of the small group of NFL players that are the elite of the elite at critical positions, and don't have any oddball personality or health issues. If he were 2-3 years younger that'd be ideal, but that wouldn't slow me down and I doubt it would stop the Eagles from getting a deal done either.

WTF is Al Davis even thinking if this rumor is true, and how is Philly not all over it. I think it's a snap trade too.
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03-29-2010 , 12:44 AM
would need to get rid of one of samuel or brown
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03-29-2010 , 05:02 AM
Not really; nickel CB is practically a starter anyway, or Sheldon could play some safety.
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03-29-2010 , 12:39 PM
wasnt brown bitching about wanting a new contract though?
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03-29-2010 , 06:34 PM
Raiders at the front for a trade with McNabb
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03-29-2010 , 06:40 PM
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nickel CB is practically a starter anyway
+1.

"You can't never have too many good corners" might be cliché, but it's true. The NFL is a passing league now, you pretty much need to have 1 stud plus 2-3 solid players at CB.

I'd even go so far to say that if your #4 isn't good enough to start for another team today, or at least handle the slot, you have need at the position.
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03-30-2010 , 01:31 AM
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+1.

"You can't never have too many good corners" might be cliché, but it's true. The NFL is a passing league now, you pretty much need to have 1 stud plus 2-3 solid players at CB.

I'd even go so far to say that if your #4 isn't good enough to start for another team today, or at least handle the slot, you have need at the position.
While I agree, realistically it's hard to have that many quality corners. Unfortunately players have egos and a corner that is good enough to start somewhere else isn't going to be happy being the fourth corner, even if they are seeing plenty of snaps. I think it's important to draft corners pretty often, so you can continue to have talented depth.
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03-30-2010 , 09:41 AM
Apparently both Asante and Sheldon are quietly on the trading block...Neither showed up for team workouts.
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