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03-11-2014 , 04:15 PM
Rich MacLeod ‏@richmacleod 4m

Oh hey. RT @mikefreemanNFL Mike Vick has told former Eagles teammates he thinks his most likely destination are the NY Jets.


rake - I'd put the chances of signing Ware at around 1%
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03-11-2014 , 04:40 PM
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#Eagles have released S Patrick Chung.

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03-11-2014 , 04:45 PM
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#Eagles have released S Patrick Chung.

Getting rid of dead weight is always a good thing.
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03-11-2014 , 04:56 PM
safeties getting crazy $$ so far
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03-11-2014 , 04:59 PM
@RoobCSN 12m
With Chung, Coleman, Allen & Anderson gone, Keelan Johnson now 2nd-best safety on Eagles' roster.

Guess we know where a good chunk of that cap room is going.
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03-11-2014 , 05:02 PM
Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 37s

Former Saints S Malcom Jenkins to Philly on a 3-year, $16.25M deal, per source.
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03-11-2014 , 05:07 PM


Reading that $8.5 of it is guaranteed. Seems like a good deal to me.
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03-11-2014 , 05:13 PM
10th according to ANFLS in +EPA/G last year (14 games), 12th in 2012 in 12 games (9th in +WPA). Turning 27 in December, I really like the deal. It appears the Eagles will have competent, NFL starting caliber safety play for the next 2 years at least!

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03-11-2014 , 05:14 PM
Pro Football Focus ‏@PFF 56s

Athletic, rangy, but boy does he miss a lot of tackles. RT @JackCarter342: @PFF Malcolm Jenkins?
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03-11-2014 , 05:31 PM
Starting to not like the signing as much, especially with better options out there:

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Not good, -6.0, surrendered 2nd most yards of any S RT @HisDudeness16: @PFF how did Malcolm Jenkins grade last year?
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03-11-2014 , 06:21 PM
I'm glad they retained Jones, he was clutch last year.

Dunno what to think of Jenkins. Tommy Lawlor had him as the best system/value fit, whatever that's worth.
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03-11-2014 , 06:37 PM
Mike Clay ‏@MikeClayNFL 10m

QBs completed 75% of passes and had a 103 rating vs. Malcolm Jenkins last year. His 16 missed tackles tied for 4th most at safety. #Eagles

Jenkins missed another 20 tackles in 2012 and QBs were even better against him. Worst-rated 2012 safety by @PFF

He was presumably brought in to bolster the pass defense, a guy drafted as a CB who can plan man v. slot guys and TEs (even on the outside a bit), and then I see the above. TJ Ward is more of a in the box, run stopping type guy but he is better (and only a year older), and from what I've seen his contract is for ~$5.5 million per year. I'm starting to hate this deal now.

EDIT: TJ Ward deal is 4 years, $23 million. OK, I hate the deal.
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03-11-2014 , 07:09 PM
Very underwhelming signing even without knowing what Ward got. By all metrics available he has performed mediocre in both coverage and against the run. PFF had him as the lowest ranked safety behind Chung and Allen.

I guess the front office liked his versatility to play in different situations, his age, pedigree as a former first round pick, and his intangibles (defensive captain of the Saints for the last two years, considered high character guy). He's also stayed relatively healthy over his career.

Unfortunately all of the tangible elements point to this being another mediocre stop-gap signing. We didn't exactly get a bargain of a price either, and rushing out to sign him in the first few hours of free agency when Byrd, Ward, and Mitchell were all still available strikes me as foolish. Ward and Mitchell have since gone, and Ward's contract only makes the Jenkins signing seem even worse. Mitchell got 5 years, $25m. Not sure on the guaranteed money but both seem to be much better values than what we got.

Then there's the story that Byrd is traveling to the Saints who have almost no cap space. If they end up signing him to a reasonable contract that we could have easily afforded I think I'm going to need to be medicated.
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03-11-2014 , 07:11 PM
Not saying it was a good signing, but 16 missed tackles isn't compelling. Safeties tend to have a lot, playing in open space more often. Earl Thomas had 14.
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03-11-2014 , 07:18 PM
45 missed tackled the last 3 years. That's a trend.
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03-11-2014 , 07:30 PM
Meh, it's not enough to jump on the hate train to me.

PE.com saying they're still talking with Mitchell. Not an endorsement for Wolff.
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03-11-2014 , 07:33 PM
Don't hate it, don't love it
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03-11-2014 , 07:36 PM
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Meh, it's not enough to jump on the hate train to me.

PE.com saying they're still talking with Mitchell. Not an endorsement for Wolff.
Mitchell already signed with the Steelers.
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03-11-2014 , 07:39 PM
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Mitchell already signed with the Steelers.
Well then. I should have read all of your earlier post.

Edit: but Jenkins was a two year defensive captain!
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03-11-2014 , 07:58 PM
Does TJ Ward have like his brother as his agent? Thats a pretty terrible contract for him considering what other safeties got today. Maybe he took a discount to try and win a ring.

Jenkins signing fits Howie's post dream team strategy for FA of signing stop gaps to short deals to maintain flexibility and building mostly through the draft.
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03-11-2014 , 10:07 PM
Byrd got paaaaaid

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Saints are giving former Bills S Jairus Byrd a six-year, $54 million contract, including $28 million guaranteed, per source.
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03-12-2014 , 09:45 AM
Barring a massive uptick in play under a new coach or something, Jenkins is pretty terrible.
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03-12-2014 , 10:56 AM
Sigh.

The comments from Chip/Howie are "versatility."
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03-12-2014 , 02:08 PM
FA has been a huge let down so far.
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03-12-2014 , 02:30 PM
After recent failures in FA, I think not spending big money is a win. This team gets better through the draft.
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