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10-10-2011 , 11:10 AM
the following free agent signings are useless:

vince young
steve smith
ronnie brown

ugh, this team is so lol. they really had me fooled this year into thinking they were a contender.

also, jerrod page needs to be cut right now. just send jarrett in there, he is a second round pick, after all
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10-10-2011 , 05:06 PM
Reid sucks, theirs no reason he shouldn't be fired.

Gruden would be epic, he was my uncles college roommate might be able to hook it up with some tix
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10-10-2011 , 05:09 PM
On a side note it is actually pretty impressive we keep only managing to lose by 1 TD on the last possession and continue to have 3-5 turnovers each game
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10-10-2011 , 05:47 PM
the eagles are good but just running really bad
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10-13-2011 , 01:29 PM
Dawkins? D.J. Williams?..that booger Adam Scheffer is talking rumors, I hate that guy
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10-14-2011 , 12:38 AM
I'm not on the fire Reid Wagon at all. I think it's pretty stupid. Castillo was not a good call but it's not the defense turning the ball over left and right.
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10-14-2011 , 01:35 AM
I can get over the terrible game management and questionable playcalling from Reid. I just can't get over the personnel decisions, from the hiring of Castillo at DC, the refusal to address the LB situation, all the way to the horrendous drafting on the defensive side of the ball. It's inexcusable, and heads gotta roll, imo.
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10-14-2011 , 02:38 PM
I agree with all that you said aislephive, I just don't know if I want to go as far as firing Reid. He brings so much good to the table. When JJ was here, I always got the sense that he was in complete control of his defense, including significant input into personnel decisions. We need to get back to that, and get a real defensive coordinator and leave Andy in control of the offense. If he can't get on board with that, then ya, he's got to go.
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10-16-2011 , 04:58 PM
Hey! We won!

Sexy rexy came to play.
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10-17-2011 , 12:50 AM
so I look at the rest of our schedule, and it's pretty promising

there's nothing in those 10 post-bye games that is all that bad except a game in Giants stadium and a game at home against the Pats

nice to have a win for some confidence going into the bye
then we make a run I hope
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10-17-2011 , 09:14 AM
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10-17-2011 , 09:31 AM
There were only a few improvements that I saw this week, other then that I dont think this team has turned a corner or anything. Frankly, if we were playing a good team we would have lost...the Redskins happen to be a not so good team.

The main thing I saw that was promising is that Nate Allen looks significantly better then he did even 3-4 weeks ago. He still looks a step slow compared to pre injury but quicker and looked pretty athletic on that INT.

Maybe addition by subtraction by de-activating Jarrad Paige, that man is a stink bomb.
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10-17-2011 , 10:17 AM
This defense has actually looked like, well, a defense the last 6 quarters. A couple big hits, guys flying to the ball, actual cohesion between the players. Cautiously optimistic.

Game in 2 weeks against the Cowboys is huge, as is every other game this season. If we can get Cole and Peters healthy during the bye that would be great.
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10-17-2011 , 10:22 AM
IMO the defense looked good because the Skins were forced to play into our strength once we got the lead pretty quickly. They were forced to throw 80% of the time which plays right into the strength of this wide 9, resulting in better results.
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10-17-2011 , 10:55 AM
defense looked decent. didn't see great plays from the linebackers, but didn't see really bad blown plays either, which is a huge plus at this point.

took away their running game, which i honestly didn't think would happen. although, it helps when their starting LG and LT get injured, but ill take it.

jarrad page should never sniff the field again this year.

vick looked pretty good... its annoying how many of his passes get tipped at the line of scrimage. he needs to get some air under those passes sometimes.

mccoy was a beast... has been all year so far.

redskins looked really terrible. they are clearly a fraud team so far this year... hopefully the same is true for the giants and we can take this division.
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10-17-2011 , 12:05 PM
Hey, they made some tackles and didn't turn it over 8 times - those have been the biggest problems and a large part of why the team has 2 wins. The Skins did try to run early, and their failure was part of why the Eagles jumped out.

I expected a slow start, I just hope the hole isn't too deep. There was so much turnover from last year along both lines, a bunch of FAs and many new coaches in key roles - all without training camp. They made some bad personnel decisions on D, and didn't have the usual opportunities to get it right before the season started. Sprinkle in some runbad, poor tackling and game mismanagement, and here we sit.

2 games out, a bye to continue working and hopefully get Peters and Cole back - a turnaround is very possible. Eagles have been very good over the second half of the season under Reid.

I can't fault their plan coming in to the season - with one of the most explosive offenses in the league, a stacked D-Line and lockdown corners should be enough to win a lot of games, even being weak at LB and S. Every team has weaknesses - the coaches aren't necessarily "ignoring" them, although it may appear so when things don't pan out. I'm not ready to bury Castillo as a failure quite yet.

On a side note, losing Dixon was so huge. He was their best run stuffer.

http://deadspin.com/5850433/this-slo...not-the-season

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10-17-2011 , 05:17 PM
I don't buy the 'every team has weaknesses' argument. No team is as imbalanced on defense as the Eagles, with pro bowlers galore at corner and d-line and arguably no starting caliber players at safety or linebacker.

Trying to then implement a wide 9 scheme with the personnel they have at LB is also a huge fail. There wasn't a worse group of LBs in the league coming into this season, and even with the upgrade Rolle has been I dare anybody to find a worse trio starting in the NFL.

On another note, Winston Justice played pretty solid at RT this week. If Peters is healthy for the Dallas game I'd like to see Herremans slide over to LG. They were dominant on that left side early in the year.

Honestly, this hole is probably too deep to climb out of. We're going to need to win almost every single divisional game from this point forward and get a lot of help from other teams beating the Giants and Cowboys (still don't consider the Skins a threat for the division).

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10-17-2011 , 05:44 PM
agreed about justice... if he can keep up that level of play i wouldn't mind him starting and moving herremans to LG. that would turn a huge weakness (offensive line) into a strength IMO. herremans/peters is one of the best left side combo's in the league.
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10-17-2011 , 06:11 PM
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I don't buy the 'every team has weaknesses' argument.
ok. it's still true though.

I don't think Fokou/Chaney/Rolle and Allen/Coleman are as terrible as you think, or as terrible as the LB and S units have looked. Clearly, the Eagles don't either.
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10-17-2011 , 06:37 PM
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ok. it's still true though.
False dichotomy though. Every team has weaknesses, but not like the Eagles do.

I mean, it would be like defending a QB who throws 30 interceptions a year by saying 'hey, every QB throws picks!'

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I don't think Fokou/Chaney/Rolle and Allen/Coleman are as terrible as you think, or as terrible as the LB and S units have looked. Clearly, the Eagles don't either.
The LB trio is every bit as bad as it looks on paper. Don't let a win against the Redskins blind you to that. If I'm just exaggarating, name me three starting LB trios that are worse? Hell, can you name me one?

I liked Coleman during preseason (even said so ITT), and if Allen can get back to where he was before injury that's a workable situation at safety. But I'm sorry, the LB situation is and will continue to be a huge weakness on this defense that other teams will take advantage of week in week out. I could care less if Reid, Banner, and Roseman think they can get away with the personnel they have there. Our results say otherwise.
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10-17-2011 , 07:09 PM
LBs are clearly the biggest weakness on the team. They've been constantly shuffled, new scheme, new coordinator - 0 continuity. There is little chance they are playing as well as they can and are as bad as they've looked. Chaney was decent last year, Fokou wasn't terrible. They should be good enough, and would likely be playing better if they never messed with Matthews and started out the season this way.

Team-by-team LB review would be pointless because we already know you think they are worse than I do, and worse than everyone else in the league. Hopefully the results change.
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10-17-2011 , 07:15 PM
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Team-by-team LB review would be pointless because we already know you think they are worse than I do, and worse than everyone else in the league. Hopefully the results change.
I'm just asking for your honest assessment. Which teams do you think are worse off at LB than the Eagles?
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10-17-2011 , 07:24 PM
Pats probably do right now. Think just getting Mathews and Page off the field is going to solve a lot of the issues they had.
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10-17-2011 , 08:52 PM
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Pats probably do right now. Think just getting Mathews and Page off the field is going to solve a lot of the issues they had.
Mayo by himself brings the Pats group a level above the Eagles.
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10-18-2011 , 09:32 AM
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I don't buy the 'every team has weaknesses' argument. No team is as imbalanced on defense as the Eagles, with pro bowlers galore at corner and d-line and arguably no starting caliber players at safety or linebacker.

Trying to then implement a wide 9 scheme with the personnel they have at LB is also a huge fail. There wasn't a worse group of LBs in the league coming into this season, and even with the upgrade Rolle has been I dare anybody to find a worse trio starting in the NFL.

On another note, Winston Justice played pretty solid at RT this week. If Peters is healthy for the Dallas game I'd like to see Herremans slide over to LG. They were dominant on that left side early in the year.

Honestly, this hole is probably too deep to climb out of. We're going to need to win almost every single divisional game from this point forward and get a lot of help from other teams beating the Giants and Cowboys (still don't consider the Skins a threat for the division).

We don't need help from other teams with the Cowboys. We have the same # of wins and play them twice.

The Giants are about to go 5-2 with this Sund's Dolphins win but then they have: at NE, at SF, home vs Phil, at NO, vs GB, at Dallas.

Would be great if they go 2-4 in that stretch (which is very likely) and one of those loses it to us.


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ok. it's still true though.

I don't think Fokou/Chaney/Rolle and Allen/Coleman are as terrible as you think, or as terrible as the LB and S units have looked. Clearly, the Eagles don't either.
LOLOLOL

The LB's and S's have played (and are) terrible. Coleman had a nice game stats wise but Grossman straight up threw 2 balls to him while he made a nice play on one.

The Eagles are still very much in the east race....but it's entirely due to the Giants tough schedule and the fact that Dallas has lost 3 games in the last 2 mins....two of them (NYJ and Det) were prob 85% win equity at some point (both 14 point 4th Q leads).

We have played terrible. Don't sugar coat it.

That being said, maybe we can get on a run. The schedules allow for it. They have the bye then Dall, Chi and Az all at home. Win those and they are 5-4 going into the Giants game. At that point the Giants would be 5-4 as well (assuming win Mia, Loss NE, Loss SF). Huge game for the division lead.
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