was just wondering since i live in cbus and might be fun for ppl to get together to see a road game or something

but, but, but - didn't you hear me say that the day urban retired the second time?

It would absolutely suck if he came to tOSU. Just take a look at the UF program. He recruits thugs and then doesn't control them. If a Big Ten school had his teams arrest record they (the coach) would get crucified. But it is not a big deal down here in SEC land. Look at Aurburn and CN. They could care less about whether things come out about him. They won it all this year. That is the general feeling - whatever it takes. If we thought we had police troubles with Coopers guys, just wait and see what urban would put us through.

I think hiring Urban would be amazing and I am absolutely amazed at those who wouldn't want him. I don't follow recruiting too closely but I do have a general idea of what is going on. From everything I have read Urban ran a relatively clean program. Recruiting is always shady but I do remember stories where Florida stopped recruiting kids because it was a little too shady. Another piece of information that you are forgetting is that a lot of the kids who were recruited by Urban were also recruited by JT. You also better believe that if nearly any 4* or 5* recruit that went to Florida during the past 7 years called up JT on NLOID day and said "I want to play at OSU. Will you accept my LOI?" JT would have snap called.

I would also be surprised if the number of arrests and team disciplinary problems between UF when Urban was there and OSU while Tressel has been here is that different. Don't forget 2004 and 2005 when someone was getting arrested or kicked off the team every other week. It wasn't that long ago when our back up QB got arrested for soliciting a hooker. We have had and still have our own fair share of thugs along with every other national power. The two go hand in hand unfortunately.

Milo - you not serious are you? I don't follow this thread as much as others do so I don't know if you are pulling our chains about urbans record. But just in case you ARE serious here is an article written in the fall. Unfortunately there have been 3-4 more arrests since them. And I don't think these totals include Cam Newtons theft charges. I agree that the arrest totals in Tress' first few years were high - but remember who's recruits they were. The totals will never be perfect but believe me urban's program will always have these problems. And in my opinion if he coaches outside the SEC he will have to take even more marginal attitude players.

Would JT take some of UF's recruits - heck yes. The difference is that those recruits just might be around a group of coaches and other players that might be different examples. Being around people that are around the UF program the feeling is that troubled kids will play as long as they can - then they just go get other ones. The thought is that people down here will only remember the championships - not the arrest totals.

Here’s an excerpt from the USA Today article written by the newspaper’s respected college sports guru Steve Wieberg:
“Saturday against Kentucky, he (Meyer) figures to get his 100th career victory — in his 118th game, reaching the milestone faster than all but five Hall of Fame coaches, including Bud Wilkinson and Knute Rockne.

“But another statistic is more bedeviling: at least 31 off-the-field arrests involving 25 of Meyer’s players dating to the summer of 2005, according to a running count by the Orlando Sentinel. Many have been typical college-years brushes with the law, from alcohol possession to disorderly conduct. But a dozen involved initial charges of felonies or violent misdemeanors, and the run of incidents has shared front-page space with Florida’s on-the-field accomplishments and invited pointed questions about the program’s virtue.

“In a closing commentary on this week’s Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel on HBO, Gumbel compared Florida’s arrests with the agent-related violations that subjected Southern California to a two-year postseason ban and other stiff NCAA sanctions. Arguing that ‘driving drunk, robbing a convenience store, and hitting your girlfriend are all worse offenses than dealing with an agent,’ he took the NCAA to task for not dealing as sternly with the Gators and other programs with police-blotter problems.

“After Florida receiver Chris Rainey was booked last week on a felony charge of aggravated stalking — for allegedly sending an ex-girlfriend a threatening text message — Orlando columnist Mike Bianchi wrote, ‘Sadly, this outlaw reputation is now the national image of the Florida Gators … Tim Tebow is no longer around to clean up the mess.’ “

By no means am I saying Florida isn't a program that has had their large share of bad publicity lately. Nor am I saying Urban is the man The Vest is (or seems to be). But I think you are forgetting 2003-2005. OSU was THE renegade program. Those were Tressel's recruits. Clarret, Smith, Izzary, Guilford were a few of the notable trouble makers but there were a lot of kids who were suspended for team violations those years and dismissed from the team of breaking rules. Would Urban have dismissed them? I don't know. But I do know for a fact that Tressel used to have a long leash. I don't know if he does anymore but I doubt he does. I think he learned from those years.

Has Florida had a rough stretch lately? Yeah. But so did OSU. And I also know for a fact that there was a lot of stuff those years that didn't exactly go reported. There were some bad apples those years. Tressel has done a much better of job of getting good kids lately and keeping them from doing bad things.

I do disagree with some of the things Urban has done in the past but the man is a winner. He is one of the greatest coaches of all time. I don't think there would be the pressure to let things slide at OSU as there is at Florida because the SEC is so cutthroat. I also think he has probably learned from his mistakes like Tressel did at his.

You know you are probably right. I tend to look at things through rose colored glasses sometimes. Urban is a great coach. I just don't like his style. Hopefully there are a lot of great coaches to choose from when Tressel decides to move to the Admin side of OSU.

Urban comes across as a snake oil salesman. Telling kids that God told them he was supposed to come to be a Gator, etc...

I agree with this. I don't know about that specific story though. I have tried to find where it originated and don't know enough to decide if he really told Floyd that or not. I wouldn't be surprised either way.

I do think Meyer seems like a snake oil salesman and that is a direct contrast to JT. I do like JT's honesty even though it has cost us a few recruits. Hiring a coach is such a crapshoot that hiring a guaranteed winner like Urban would be huge. No coach is perfect. Tressel has some skeletons in his closet from his Youngstown days. Urban may have a bit of that snake oil in him but just about every other coach does too.

I highly doubt Urban would be the guy. 4 or 5 years is a long time in the coaching world. There will be at least another half dozen "can't miss" guys come up through the ranks. Hopefully one of them is named Fickell or Hazel.

yikes

Didn't get a chance to watch the North/South game, but did see the Great Dane put up some good numbers. Any of you see where he projects in the draft?

I would take either of them in a heartbeat. I might ad Bo Pelini in that mix as well. If he stays at Nebraska for the next 5 years he might not come home though. What do you guys think about this trend of having a "coach in waiting"? FSU and Texas have used it but neither school had a defined time period on it. It worked for one - not the other. In Tressels case he just might have that date in mind. I don't know what I think about it honestly - but it sure would add to the coaching continuity.

I used to be a pro-Pelini guy, but he really blew his chance by being a huge baby. I'd prefer Meyer to him. At least he wins.

I'm not a fan of the coach in waiting thing. Just expand your coaching tree, send your young experts to get experience (Hazell, Fickell), get a lot of young blood, and eventually it will do you well. Find the best available candidate at the time. Otherwise it can just be a huge mess.

David Brandon could prolly come in and give a powerpoint lecture on the process.....text book coaching search imo

Too funny - tOSU has been very fortunate the last two AD's are the cream of the crop. I just might trust Smith with the job....you can keep DB.

My favorite thing about DB is that when he left the company he was the CEO of (Dominos), they went on a multi-million dollar ad campaign that described just how crappy their product was under his leadership. I'm sure he loved that ad campaign.

Ummm he was the one who initiated the changes in the pizza, and the ad campaign. Shhh now.

Well knowing that I am really hoping he has that same stroke of genius to make a similar ad campaign but for UM Football and Basketball instead.

my favorite thing about OSU guys is how dumb they are

That Chris Carter kid seems like a real nice guy

can't believe we lost walker, and to usc no less. I figured he was a lock since last spring. We get cardale instead, no idea where he end up playing.

Lets hope we at least close on grant.

Got him....

For what its worth - this is a sick class on paper!!!

sick indeed...



loldumbgirls...but still.

Good news is Ohio State will likely drop the offer. Maybe Michigan can add another to their 9 member recruiting class of 2 star athletes and grab a 3 star.

Maybe Tressel will award him a new car