Kelly could be Irish's answer

Brutal:

The Weis Fact Sheet
posted by The Rock

-Under .500 over the last 3 years.
-Against teams with winning records: Weis 8-19 (.296) Faust 12-23 (.343) Willingham
-12-15 (.444) Davie 18-22 (.450)
-0 wins against teams finishing in the top 10 of any of the major polls.
-1 (1-13) win against teams finishing in the Top 25 (Willingham had 7)
-Worst two year stretch in Notre Dame history (10-15)
-First coach to lose to Navy since 1963 (twice)
-First time in 73 years (the first year of polling) that an unranked Navy team defeated a ranked Notre Dame team
-Worst loss to a service academy in 44 years (blown out by Air Force)
-First coach in Notre Dame history to lose to an eight-loss team (Syracuse 2008)
-0-5 against USC
-Average margin of defeat against USC: 19.8 ppg
-Losing records to Boston College: 1-2, Michigan: 2-3 and Michigan State: 2-3
-Losses by 20 points or more: 8
-More shutout losses: 3 (Boston College, USC, Michigan) in four years than Notre Dame had from 1965-2001
-First 9-loss season in school history
-First 0-4 start ever
-First 0-5 start ever
-Has lost to more teams that finished outside the top 50 (MSU 2007, Purdue 2007, GT 2007, Navy 2007, Syracuse 2008) than Willingham, Davie and Faust… combined (5-4)
-Last overall offense in the country in 2007
-Last overall in yards per play in 2007
-Last overall in yards per game in 2007
-Lowest average yardage in the history of Notre Dame football in 2007
-Worst rushing team in ND history in 2007
-Lost to Navy, USC and Michigan in the same year… twice
-Set an NCAA record (58) for most sacks allowed in a season in 2007
-Notre Dame finished 90th in the country in the 2007 Sagarin ratings… below Richmond, North Dakota State, Delaware, Navy, Florida Atlantic, James Madison and Wofford.
-3-16 record since 2007 against teams that finished with a winning record
-Only coach in ND history to coach for five years and not score 50 points in a game (56 other teams topped 50 points during Weis’s tenure)
-Weis has given up 40+ points in a loss 6 times, 30+ in a loss 19 times
-Currently has the 84th ranked defense in the country
-Will miss the BCS three straight years
-No BCS wins in five years of coaching

I don't think you fully appreciate what a horrible state Ty left the program in. They are better than they were last year, which was better than 2007. Clearly, things are on track. These things take time. Next year he'll stir the echoes with 9-3 or 10-2.

[Then you can fire him after 2011 is a disaster. Please. Please. Please. I'm not ready for the Weis era to end.]



"Let me just say people better enjoy (beating us) now, have their fun now."
-- Charlie Weis

Willie Wonka checks in

Well, if you put in those terms...

Bleacher Report is reporting Weis is out at the end of the year. I doubt the report is entirely legit, but I think it's worth at least mentioning.

Huge LOL from NDnation regarding the coaching search:

"Maybe Ndukwe's father will bring a coach..."

Weis has never scored 50? Wow.

I don't usually listen to such drivel, but Cowherd had Bob Davie on today and let's just say he didn't exactly give Chunky Charlie a ringing endorsement. It was amusing to hear Davie all but say 'watered down admissions, watered down schedule, easier this that and the other thing JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE why didn't you do this when *I* was the head football coach?'

I'm pretty sure he did say "Western Michigan LOL".

I've long been suspicious that he had a different relationship with/more cooperation from the admissions office than his predecessors, but rarely seen a whisper of it, and never anything sourced.

I don't know to what extent, if any, it is true, but what a jackass Davie is for implying as much. I love it, of course, but what a jerk.

lol

You'll find our schedules don't offer as many opportunities to run up the score on hapless cupcakes. You'll also find that scoring 50+ on bad teams is nothing to be particularly enamoured about if you give it a little thought. LOVE how you guys think about the game though!

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I would be personally uncomfortable if we were lowering admissions criteria for the players, and I'm extremely irritated by next year's ****ing joke of a schedule. I know a few of ye are irked by the latter point, but how do you feel about academic requirements for players? In my opinion, these guys should be proper student athletes and take real classes. Would ye be happy to let such stuff slide if it made us more competitive?

This is for domers argue about, but I don't think it is a big deal for the football program to work closely with admissions, presenting an opportunity to take more chances than they do with general admissions. What I found tiresome was the constant appraisal of Weis as the man who re-invented recruiting at ND.

From an outsider it seemed (circumstantially) the progression went from, Bob Davie whining about not being able to get "the black athlete," to bringing in Ty to address that-- but Ty getting no cooperation/support because he was the barbarian at the gate. Well, they kept losing, and they made some adjustment (however reasonable) with Weis.

I have no clue how admissions in general works for ND recruits. I imagine even if they've been lowered, they are still tougher than the minimum standards. One advantage ND does have (at least under Weis) is that they work closely with the Business School to get recruits in. And, for some reason, recruits are always huge on majoring in business.

QFDecidedSchematicAdvantage

I do think that UM and ND fans have a special kinship at the moment: two once great college football powers that are struggling to beat services academies and MAC schools. Since you guys are rivals and I have a special hatred of Weis, I love the schadenfreude moments of ND fail and won't deny that, but I think we share a special kind of shame of completely unrealistic expectations of greatness coupled with laughable results and facepalm moments that few others understand.

If you'll forgive the potentially tasteless analogy, I feel like we're a pair of battered wives exchanging glances across the driveway. We hear what goes on at night at your house, and it's a pain we know all to well.

Texas cared so much about academic standards they demanded they get raised with the formation of the Big XII.

Oh, and yea you only play powerhouse teams like Washington State, Syracuse, service academies, etc.

Should I bam out the schedule comparisons again?

And we need to stop this kinship ASAP before we wind up in a lesbian movie.

Be sure to go vote more me and Ineedaride in the Politard King Final Four, as I give you and the other Michigan faithful some love there.

in RRod's defense, they definitely handled the MAC schools this year

that is progress though it's tough to see it right now

POLITICS IN ACTION!!

No offense to 13th, but I remember the last one (that pvn won) and it was a giant cluster**** and made no sense. I assumed the current one was just as bad and have been ignoring it.

I see you and INR are up against against Wookie and Boro. You guys are 4 of my favorite posters in Politics so I can't make any promises about where my vote will fall.

Charlie Weis is thinkin Arby's

wtf who changed my totally awesome OP subject heading? It's like we have a lame permaseason thread now.


Anyway, who's cheering for the Wannstache tonight to better lock up CW's firing?

I think if the Irish lose tonight, they lose out. I just don't see this team rallying late.