MSU
Florida State
Ole Miss
Alabama
Auburn
Oregon
Notre Dame?
Michigan State
Georgia
Notre Dame?
TCU

I think we'll be somewhere between 7th and 9th. Hopefully don't drop below TCU, or god forbid K-State.

Oregon jumping us would be awful. Compare our losses.

The best 1 loss teams are Bama, Auburn, and ND.

Pollsters typically hate ND so you never know.

if oregon doesn't jump us now, i think a 12-1 pac-12 champ oregon team makes it in above us regardless

so oregon has got to get got

Need Stanford to take care of business. Not sure how likely that is after sharting the bed vs. ASU.

Does ND having ASU (and USC) still on the schedule beneficial here? Common opponents?

#8 in the Coaches' Poll:

1Mississippi State (36)6-01,5201
2Florida State (22)7-01,4932
3Mississippi (4)7-01,4473
4Alabama6-11,2937
5Michigan State6-11,2436
6Auburn5-11,2108
7Oregon6-11,1339
8Notre Dame6-11,1175
9Georgia6-11,09610
10TCU5-199612
11Kansas State5-190914
12Ohio State5-185613
13Baylor6-18534
14Arizona State5-165418
15Arizona5-161217
16Nebraska6-158819
17East Carolina5-157816
18Oklahoma5-248211
19Utah5-137123
20Clemson5-232022
21USC5-225825
22Marshall7-024724
23LSU6-2155NR
24Minnesota6-1147NR
25West Virginia5-2143NR

AP Poll:

1 Mississippi State 1480
2 Florida State 1433
3 Mississippi 1404
4 Alabama 1235
5 Auburn 1231
6 Oregon 1142
7 Notre Dame 1133
8 Michigan State 1066
9 Georgia 1055
10 TCU 962

Sizable gap in votes between ND & Sparty. Big thumbs up.

That's better than I expected.

How much do those polls play on the decision of the final 4?

Win out and we'll be in, that simple.

I'm not entirely sure; I suspect a strong bias in favor of conference champs.

I dont see this as a guarantee, though I certainly hope you are right. I see a legit possibility of Oregon winning out (1 team in), FSU winning out (2 teams in) & obviously the SEC winner (3 teams in). We have to thank WV for beating Baylor & Baylor beating TCU to pretty much eliminate the Big12. MSU winning out has to put them in (4th team in). And we still have the question of what happens if a second SEC school between Miss, Miss St & Bama don't win the SEC but end up with 1 loss? Voters love to give that conference the benefit of the doubt in all situations even if one of the 4 above happen to lose a 2nd time.

ND may be the odd team out here...

you remind us of us when we were us.

not all the michigan fans (or any as far as I remember) were rooting against you last night.

I yelled "YESSS" when the TD was caught, "NOOO" when they called the flag, and "LOOOL" when I saw the clear replay of dude blocking.

there's times to hate on ND, and there's times when they're playing FSU...

The committee has said they will favor conference champions. That can only mean having one will break a tie.

And yes ND and UM have always been intertwined whether scheduling games or not.

I poast plenty in the Michigan thread as well.

Midwest football, plenty of history. And generally sick finishes over the past few years. Plus, many of our recent program-wide struggles have parallels and useful points of reference for discussion (I forget who mentioned that Michigan is in between Davie and Willingham at the moment).

I know, I was just replying to domer..you nailed why

Yeah I too was rooting hard for ND. That last play was sick, but at least the OPI was so obvious that it had to be called. Like if it was close I would've been pissed all day Sunday too. Why did that ND player make is SO ****ing obvious, the play was destined to work no matter what (I suspect).

Anyways, I know it's cliche to say "there are no moral victories", but this loss might actually be the exception because this game woke a lot of people up to the fact that ND is as good as anyone, and that perception is critical as far as getting into the playoffs. If ND runs the table, with the only blemish then being a close loss to FSU on the road, they're in. And if they're not in I will be pissed and bitter about it forever. Kinda like ND 93. I'm not an ND fan but whenever that team is brought up I get pissed about the fact that they didn't get the trophy even tho they were the best team in the country. ND is not gonna get screwed this time. They just gotta take care of business and not run bad in the injury department.

Great time to be an ND fan. Unlike 2012, this team ain't no mirage.

hopefully michigan can pull its **** together for 60 minutes and beat MSU. express mail your coach a headset.

in ill-be-complaining-about-this-for-the-next-60-years-news, the ACC's official release is that the foul was on Prosise (lmao) and that they missed that the FSU player took off his helmet right in front of multiple striped shirts (oops, sorry about missing the easiest penalty to call in history!) the result of which would've been a 1st and goal with 13 seconds left and probably an 80% chance of victory even with the screw job on the offensive pass interference.

robot refs can't get here soon enough.

Don't worry dude. Michigan's got this one.

How can the ACC change the offender the next day?

Don't act like you aren't familiar with coverups.

Don't get me started on the Notre Dame versus the national championship game that year. Obviously head to head means nothing when you win, if your name is Notre Dame. I also bring up the Miami national championship in at 7 I think, when Miami beat Notre Dame head to head and then was awarded the national championship because of head-to-head wins. You always get screwed when you're the Irish.

The pass interference call was accurate, I wasn't happy about it, but I saw it so I lived with the results. What kind of made me a little bit frustrated with that if you watch the film, an FSU player actually removed his helmet while on the field. That should have also brought a flag, though it was missed. Game should not have been over on that play, instead the Irish should have had one more chance at 4th down. What could have happened?

Removing the helmet is a dead ball foul. After the PI, the unsportsmanlike penalty would have made it 1st and goal at the 9 with 11 seconds left.

Guess we're stuck we Pat Ryan through 2025 or until he gets quietly retired.

http://www.theacc.com/#!/news-detail...025-2014-10-21

but we can sell new recruits on

2018

4. Florida State at Notre Dame, 11/10

25 anniversary of the Game of the Century. I approve.