At least Michigan fans are awful as well.

On to a somewhat interesting topic, what is with the RR owned Fat Charlie stuff? Is it all based on the last drive? Because I thought Charlie called an excellent game overall and that is from a guy who wants him fired. I also didn't like RR's gameplan in the first half, but it was much better in the second.

What was wrong with RR's gameplan in the first half? He held Minor out because he's hurt and wanted to use him in the second half. He made things very simple for Tate because he was playing in his first big game on national TV.

He and Greg Robinson were committed to keeping Floyd and Tate in front of them, and they called the defense appropriately. Had the secondary made more gambles in the first half, Michigan is probably down a lot more at the half. As it is, they made ND move the ball more methodically and limited damage until they could make halftime adjustments.

The defense made some pretty good adjustments at the half, and Rich Rod opened things up offensively in the second half. Seemed to work perfectly. At least that's what the scoreboard tells me.

Also, Rich Rod didn't really make any mistakes in playcalling. Weis made a few bad ones. Obviously the final drive, but the QB draw from Clausen on 3rd and long in the first half was one of a few calls that left me shaking my head.

lol alright no need to bother

Maybe you should actually tell me where I'm wrong rather than picking out one statement. The point was that the result followed because of the actions that I described. It was a perfect gameplan for the situation that Rich Rod had to deal with.

You did not run it enough in the first half, Minor banged up or not. Perfect gameplan though, COY.

Expert analysis

Blowing RR until your throat bleeds is a lot better.

You ran far too little in the first half, I don't know how else to say it. The offense was far from impressive in the first half. A kickoff return and one drive with some nice long passes, the rest was ugly.

Or maybe there are other factors that you're not considering that made Rich Rod game plan the way he did.

It was the (ahem) holding penalties that stymied UM offensively in the first half.

Lucky they were only called for 4 instead of 3 like ND.

Ah my bad, so he purposely had a stagnant offense in the first half? What a mastermind!

3 first half holding penalties, 1 of which was offsetting for no loss. The other two were on the same drive, which Michigan scored their only offensive touchdown of the half.

Yeah, purposely stagnant, more great analysis. First, they punted the ball three times, two three and outs. They moved the ball well three times, they just only came up with 10 points in those drives. They didn't produce in the red zone, they weren't stagnant.

Second, in Tate's first big game and with Minor injured, there's plenty of reason to hold the offense back a little in the first half. Not turning the ball over was a huge key to still being in the game at halftime.

The point was why they didn't run more. First and 20 changes the playbook, I'm guessing.

Edit to add: I reread my post and see I said stymied, so your point is valid with regards to that

The point is that people are saying RR ran circles around Charlie, which is just not true. If you really think RR had a perfect first half gameplan then I don't know what to say.

I'm not even knocking RR hard or anything lol.

That's one drive?

And is that really the point you were making? You said that holding penalties stymied the Michigan offense in the first half, that is just factually incorrect.

I addressed that while you were posting. I agree that it is factually incorrect to say the holding penalties stymied Michigan's offense.

What prompted my post was you saying that they didn't run enough in the first half. I do think those penalties affected the balance of their play selection. If you look at the other drives you'll see a more balanced attack. So I don't understand the didn't run enough complaint, and don't think the play by play bears it out.

shutup, before i wind another 2 seconds off the clock.

nah...ND 47 Little Brother 3 is what i'm hoping for.

probably, but he did it.

i will say that if it were I that scored that td, shushing the crowd is just about the baseline of what i'd be doing.

and if someone can make it down to avatar size, i'd be MUCH appreciative.

i agree, but i *guess* i can understand the venom right now. especially when you consider the 'holier than thou' thought process that these people operate under.

plus, blaming the refs is a lot easier than blaming your coach, who you all did backflips for a few years back.

personally, after watching the highlights again, my favorite part was the refs running off after the game, and the announcer going, 'looks like Weis is sending his assistants to chase after them, he can't, because he has 2 bum knees'...i KNOW he wanted to just say the word 'fat', but couldn't...

also, i'll have to agree with the congregation: franchise (not that he gives a flying ****) is not the poster that he was on saturday morning. lots and lots of whining ITT. it's not like we didn't have a little run-good coming to us from last year or anything.

finally: brian's post comparing charlie weis to a poker player was A+ awesome.

awesome.

You realize you root for Michigan right?

Shocking, more Wiper fail. Outside of 1 post, all of my whining was done outside of this thread. And that was two days ago.

Luckily for me, I woke up Sunday with just a hangover. You wake up everyday with this drivel coming out of your mouth.

my half assed attempt. i could make it a little bigger by cutting off a little of the sideline if you want.

oh lawd.

either riverman operates photoshop in the same exact lazy way i do (step 1. resize to 80 pixels, step 2. save in highest quality) or he got this up awfully quick.

riverman...that's mine.

pretty dickheadish move, actually.

phildo, you are the MAN. thank you.

i bet my victory hangover was worse than your loser hangover.

and not every day, just on days where we cheat notre dame out of their rightful wins. those are especially fun days. when the clock-operator/refs cheat notre dame.

because everyone knows cheating notre dame out of games they should've won is fun.