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I get that he is bad at throwing people out but how much is it on our pitching staff at the same time holding runners on? I feel like a few of our guys have longer motions from the stretch. I always think about it with QB's that take a lot of sacks. The initial blame goes to the offensive line a lot of times but it could also be the QB(like Roethlisberger) that tend to hold onto the ball forever.

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11-04-2015 , 11:32 AM

#20702

metsandfinsfan

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i think a lot of that has to do with the pitching staff

i mean D'arnaud threw out 33% of baserunners

and Plawecki threw out ...

26%

and Anthony Recker threw out ...

9%

so you really think it's Darnaud's fault?

wow

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11-04-2015 , 11:38 AM

#20703

MyrnaFTW

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Maybe we should recognize that Kansas city had the timing figured out , they have elite speed to begin with and once you add what they empathize and scout methodically (stealing seven against the A's was no fluke ) , they will make average throwing catchers look bad.

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11-04-2015 , 11:43 AM

#20704

metsandfinsfan

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plawecki caught more games and allowed more steals

the issue is the pitchers

but the mets allowed what 60 stolen bases all year so its not a huge deal

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11-04-2015 , 02:56 PM

#20705

OneOut

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Apparently Sandy passed out today at his press conference when informed that he accidentally gave Terry a 2 year extension instead of firing him.

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11-04-2015 , 03:03 PM

#20706

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Originally Posted by metsandfinsfan

The animosity people have towards Harvey is hilarious

It's not an animosity towards him, it's an animosity towards the crap, that he is pulling off together with Boras.

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11-04-2015 , 05:31 PM

#20707

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MLB Trade Rumors projects Harvey, who is earning $614,625 this season and won’t be eligible for free agency until 2019, to earn $4.7 million through arbitration. Duda is projected to earn $6.8 million and Familia is projected to earn $3.3 million. The trio combined to earn just $5.5 million in 2015.

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11-04-2015 , 08:45 PM

#20708

OneOut

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So that $10m basically replaces Colons $10m and Sandy basically said they payroll is going over $100m next year. It was $87m this season.

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11-05-2015 , 02:49 PM

#20709

PyramidScheme

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getting worked up about the stolen bases is so ridiculous. Variance people for christ's sakes. This wasn't even being talked about before the WS

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11-06-2015 , 02:09 PM

#20710

niss

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qualifying offer made to Murphy

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11-17-2015 , 03:31 PM

#20711

MyrnaFTW

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went to the mets store across from bryant today,, all murphy shirts were on clearance ,, they must know something we dont.

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11-19-2015 , 08:51 PM

#20712

tabbaker

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How come Collins didn't win Manager of the Year?

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11-19-2015 , 09:29 PM

#20713

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Maddon deserved it

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12-09-2015 , 04:23 PM

#20714

OneOut

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Sigh......Mets really don't want Murphy back. Guess it's all about the money they save with Walker, but they just want a one year stop game until Herrera. They need someone who can cover 3rd too, which is why I'd rather have Murphy than Walker. They're both pretty much equal overall (both are above average offensive players with bad gloves), but Murphy can play more positions and doesn't cost you pitching depth.

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12-09-2015 , 04:24 PM

#20715

bballwiz

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We need a middle of the order bat, we can't expect to strike gold at the trade deadline next year again.

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12-09-2015 , 04:46 PM

#20716

OneOut

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I have a feeling a deGrom extension is coming soon. They need up the middle players and they have to be decent defensive players too.

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12-09-2015 , 04:57 PM

#20717

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Mets gonna get Neil Walker straight up for Jon Niese.

Walker not an upgrade over Murphy though they save a few million in 2015 and Walker is only a one-year commitment. Plus, Niese has been falling off over the last few years. Good deal.

Will Venable is being considered which would be lolbad. Venable is ****.

Last edited by SuperUberBob; 12-09-2015 at 05:14 PM.

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12-09-2015 , 10:28 PM

#20718

OneOut

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Mets have an interesting way of "fixing" IF defense. Load up on different butchers at 2B & SS, trade away the guy who threw the most ground balls.

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12-10-2015 , 08:46 AM

#20719

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Lol butchers

Cabrera has below average range but way better than tejada and Flores and he made 9 errors in 151 games last year

My dead grandmother plays better 2b than Murphy

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12-10-2015 , 06:14 PM

#20720

OneOut

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Meh, errors.

Walker
-2 DRS this year (best of career)
-10 DRS career

-6.8 UZR this year
-31.6 UZR career

Cabrera (at SS)
-7 DRS last year
-29 DRS career

-6 UZR last year
-55.5 UZR career

Flores (at SS)
-10 DRS last year
-2.5 UZR last year

Tejada (at SS)
-15 DRS last year
-20 DRS career

-5.6 UZR last year
-1.5 UZR career

Career at SS
Cabrera -10.6 UZR/150
Flores +1.7 UZR/150
Tejada -0.5 UZR/150

Career at 2B
Walker -6.4 UZR/150
Murphy -6.3 UZR/150

Mostly lateral moves.

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12-11-2015 , 08:41 AM

#20721

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Not sure why the Mets signed Cabrera. He's at best a slight upgrade over Flores.

So, Ruben Tejada prob gone then.

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12-11-2015 , 02:27 PM

#20722

OneOut

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Sandy just likes to make Wilmer cry.

As of now, unless there's a trade, they seem to want to keep all 4 of them. Flores and Tejada may play vs LHP.

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12-11-2015 , 07:25 PM

#20723

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Originally Posted by OneOut

Sandy just likes to make Wilmer cry.

As of now, unless there's a trade, they seem to want to keep all 4 of them. Flores and Tejada may play vs LHP.

Reminds me of The Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns is coaching the company softball team and sends Homer to pinch hit for Darryl Strawberry under the logic of "playing the percentages".

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12-11-2015 , 08:23 PM

#20724

OneOut

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Mets could have easily come up with the Heyward contract. Probably still woulda chose Cubs though cause everybody loves Maddon. Wonder who's going to be the first player with a huge deal and an opt out every season...Bryce Harper?