Castillo 4 for 4, 3 runs, 1 RBI today. Livan 6.2 IP.

wat?

Bats off to a good start hit-wise; the RISP stuff will come eventually.

Sitting pretty in this series with santana coming up, nice.

i hate it when i agree 100% with pyramid but seriously

we are paying him 12 mil per year, and you guys are willing to accept mediocrity. It's insane


If all Omar expected for 36 mil is the same old inconsistent perez, then it was a godawful signing. And no, i do not even consider him a semi-established starter

All we need from a number 3 starter is 200 innings and a 5 era is that what you are saying? For the people that agreed that signing perez and saving 2 mil per year by not going for lowe, you are fine with one good start one bad start out of perez all year? For realz???

On a more positive note, awesome job all around today.

Also glad to see Manuel bring K-rod in one batter before the save situation ... realizing that nailing down the win was >>>>> the stupid save stat

i have more confidence in Castillo batting .300 than in Perez having an ERA under 4

Not saying I wouldn't want lowe over perez, or that I'm backing perez in general, but 12M buys you mediocrity and this has been a trend for a while now. Lol, for whatever reason, I think the mets were at the front of this trend with the benson signing, but maybe my memory is wrong on this.

You can hate the player, but the contract was in line with what others were getting. I don't know about the mets preferences, but they did seem to go at lowe first. Unfortunately, they got complacent thinking they were the only ones in the bidding and the braves came up with a big offer. The braves only came in because they got screwed in a few deals and needed to make a splash, and they made is quickly, suprisingly. After lowe signed, not sure who else the mets should have gone after other than perez.

Not saying I like him, but that's the market for meh to decent pitchers and the mets didn't have a whole lot of options after lowe. The 12M part is just the market, and probably boras to some degree, that's the part I don't agree with you on.

I actually won't take it this far. I definatly think Perez CAN have an ERA under 4. But I'm sure even if it is itll be an inconsistent and annoying year, I doubt he'll ever change, a ML team didn't give up on him for NO REASON. That being said he likely wont have an ERA under 4, but no way that bum Castillo bats over .300. One has a 25% chance and the other 0, lol.

I actually am glad Oliver is still on the team because I hate insane turnover every yr, i don't want to be rooting for laundry, I just hope this guy gets his **** together, but probably won't.

i took a bet on best record at the end of the year w/ the mets vs the yankees.


do i have any chance of winning this and shutting up a yankee fan?

Willie, the top three in the AL East are stacked and even the other 2 teams there are all right. That will hurt everyone there, so I guess it's possible.

why, ollies 07-08 era with the mets is indeed under 4 (over 371 ip)

but sure the last 4.1 ip are the best indicator of how hes going to perform the rest of the season!

God I don't know why I keep posting in this thread, it is so frustrating to read the constant irrational babble from the same mental cases.

There is a big difference between criticizing Omar's decision to pay Oliver Perez $12 million a year and killing Oliver Perez after his first start. Just because one may believe that Omar should never have paid him that sum and/or that Perez does not deserve that kind of money does not mean that calling for the pitcher's removal from the rotation after his first start of the year is remotely rational.

You guys who reflexively kill our players a week into the season are the same types of idiots who incredibly boo our own players at our home field before 10 games have been played.

bow to niss

luis castillo is a lifetime .292 hitter over 6609 plate appearances

he hit .301 in 2007, and then received 6 mil per year as a reward

oliver perez has a lifetime 4.44 era, had a 4.22 ERA and 1.4 whip which rewarded him with a 12 million dollar contract

why are you all allowed to criticize minaya for giving castillo 6 mil per year coming off one of his best seasons, and we are not allowed to criticize minaya for giving perez 12 mil per year coming off a below avg season

the 1.4 whip to me shows thatr the 4.22 era is lucky ... you cannot allow 1.4 baserunners per inning and expect to succedd which is why it was a ridiculous signing

i am willing to drop it, as long as you are too --- but for niss to say that we cannot kill perez but he can kill castillo is bull****

anyway, we got johan going today, so at least we all agree on that one

Lets go mets

castillo has hit over .300 6 times, but last year had a GODawful year and everyone wants to shoot minaya for it

because castillo is way over the hill and the 3 years we are paying for ollie should be the best of his career (the average mlb prime age range is 27-29)

and neither bobo nor I said to remove him from the rotation either. so stop putting words in our mouths

thats a fine opinion, but dont act like we are not allowed to criticize minaya for it but you are allowed to rip hijm for signing castillo

I don't think you understand what Niss is saying. Niss seems like he's okay with the criticism towards Minaya for giving Oliver Perez that contract, but what he can't get behind is all the criticism some people gave Perez for his poor first start of the season.

IT IS NOT COMPARABLE

even if 3/36 for ollie is a bad deal, a terrible deal, its still >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4/24 for castillo who is now nothing better than a decent 8-9 spot hitter

it wasnt just the start, it was the preseason, him coming into camp out of shape, etc. he gets a huge contract, he should show up ready to pitch, and he didnt

3/36 is not a huge contract at all

he is the 5th highest paid met

Well he showed up to camp AFTER the WBC out of shape. It's still predominately his fault but the Mexican coaches didn't help out matters either (making him throw 85 pitches earlier than he should have, not returning phone calls, etc.).

Also it looked to me like he was ready to pitch on Thursday. He was perfect through what the first three innings? He just pulled his usual I'm awesome/oops now I suck routine. It's just his first start, the preseason is the preseason and should barely even be considered in this discussion imo. It's not like Perez was the only pitcher to have a bad start to the season. See: Hamels, Sabathia, Lincecum, Webb, Lee, etc. for reference.

dam josh johnson has pretty good stuff, i didnt realize he could throw that hard

noooooo