You don't honestly believe this right? Just a severe over exagerration and I got leveled pretty hard

I don't think you know how books work. Find me somewhere you can bet against Lebron going to the Knicks.

heh, yea obv not, but he can bet me for all of the gold.

Just bet on CLE, close enough.

Also, Hahn says LeBron is 50/50 (either he comes or he doesn't).

Etats was over the top with that analogy and it was kinda bad but he still knows what he's talking about more than the rest of you and has probably done a lot more research and reading about the topic.

Baltimore Jones,

You say it's more than 33% likely that the Knicks get either LeBron, Wade, or Bosh? Unfortunately, that is very badly wrong. There's pretty close to a 0% chance that Wade comes here. He loves Miami, hates NY, can make more money there, and they have cap room to sign another big player to help him.

Bosh hasn't really said much about the situation, but he can make more money in Toronto and wants to win. The only hope we'd have is that his ego makes him think that he can bring NY a title on his own. He's much more likely to go to Miami with Wade.

LeBron is really our only hope. If he wants to come to NY because of the big spotlight, then he'll come. If he wants to win championships and be higher paid, he won't.

He won't make more $$ in Cleveland, Dolan is going to give him his own tv channel which will push his earnings well above anything Cleveland can offer him and also be a channel that I would watch religiously with no shame.

I for one would watch lebron james original programming

Sportsbooks generally set lines that divide bettors 50/50, not necessarily lines that reflect true thresholds.

I don't think it's a 1/3 chance. Even if it is, how much bigger is that probably than before this trade?
We would have the flexibility whether we made this trade or not. Jeffries and Curry's contracts come off the books next summer.
There wasn't a salary cap back then. And just because we didn't draft well in the past doesn't mean a lottery pick isn't valuable right now.

The thing is, LeBron can come here whether this trade happens or not. We already have the cap space. The question is, how much more likely is it that he comes here because of the extra cap space.

whoa...............you're making an awful lot of potentially non-factual statements here

This is true, but with the extra cap space we could get that 2nd player which might entice him some more. I have mixed feelings on the deal. I'd like NY to keep bartering and save a 1st rder somehow, maybe give Houston that 2nd rder we just got for Nate, or something like that. But at the end of the day, whether or not we should do it anyway if Houston won't budge I really don't know, but certainly it's much closer than everyone saying OMG NO WAYYYYYYYY!!!

I don't know whether Wade loves Miami/hates NY, but it's not necessarily true that he can make more money there. When you factor in the likelihood of increased endorsements, NY may well turn out to be more profitable. And NY too should be able to sign a second big-name player (at least have the ability to do so cap-wise).

Wow, according to Knicks blog:

sick

The lotto example was obviously a hyperbole. I meant to illustrate that this trade is a high variance move that can pay off HUGE for us if we win. The problem is that we don't hit the payoff nearly enough to make it +EV.

And I don't think I ever said Lebron James is x% to come to the Knicks (maybe I did? I don't remember). I said the gamble was 1% to pay off, which is another exaggeration. The gamble paying off doesn't necessarily equate to Lebron coming here. We already have a shot at getting him since we already have the cap space to sign him. This trade equates to us shifting Jeffries' cap space back a year in order to increase our chances of landing Lebron.

And that's besides the point. You DO realize that I'm a Knick fan and thus I want Lebron to come here, right? That I want to be wrong about this?

We just traded Darko for Brian Cardinal, who will be waived. Cool?

lol @ getting a first round pick for Nate Robinson if true.

sheds 1.8 million.

says who? where are you getting these numbers?



the knicks obviously think that having more cap space to (potentially) sign 2 max contracts will make new york a more enticing place for prospective free agents. Can we be sure of it? of course not, but who am I to say otherwise. If this deal makes Lebron want to come to NY even the slightest bit more, i'm for it.


and if we really are getting a first round pick for nate robinson, then I love it all the more.

There's talks of a 3-way trade between the Knicks, Kings, and Rockets goign down. THe Kings would send Martin to the Rockets, who would send McGrady to us. We'd send Jeffries, Hughes, and Jordan Hill and/or picks to the Kings.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4923777

regardless of whether the knicks get in as the third team, they will end up with mcgrady.

the kings are prepared to buy him out, and then he will sign with the knicks. obviously, if it goes down like this, the knicks won't shed payroll for next season. Let's hope it works out! (or doesn't work out, if you still think this deal is bad) Seems pretty bad for sacramento to not get this done (especially if theyre gonna get a first round pick out of it), so i expect it to happen.

There are talks of Lee going to Sac now. He can veto any deal, so they need his permission to trade him.

From What I've read we aren't getting any picks for n8. WTF

Yeah, not even a 2nd for Nate.

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...rade_for_nate/

wow wtf, what's even the point of trading nate if were not getting a draftpick?

re: lee... really? any more news on that?


edit: read the realgm note, pretty much says nothing