lol poor JORTS

so ****ing happy msg network is back. omg. no more ****ty streams and bugging my friends to use there tv


I LOOK FOWARD TO WATCHING THE LIN DYNASTY

BlitzPlayer, my TWC brother.

Praise be Lin, making two quarreling nations come to Peace.

Amen.

Lin is smart enough to talk to Melo and work something out.

What I am more concerned about is our lack of depth defensively (Chandler, Shumpert and everyone else is a bit iffy).

brutal

melo obv shaky im not worried about him but no one could make anything

Jeffries tho.

I'm sick of the Amare hate. He's had a bad start, but he's clearly been hurt. Guys don't usually go from offensive stars to scrubs overnight. Yall need to relax. While the numbers may say otherwise, I actually thought he played well tonight. Seemed like he had more pep in his step. It will come back to him, he'll get right, he'll be fine.

The idea that he shouldn't be in a crunchtime lineup is ridiculous. If he stays not good, we're not gonna win anyway. Jeffries is a strong defensive player who misses lay-ups. He's a decent backup and is good for offense/defense switches, but if he's in our starting lineup come the end of the season, we got problems.

You should be more sick of Amare, than the hate surrounding him. #Objectivity

Clearly been hurt? That means it's either something unreported or undiagnosed. Either way that's bad news.

He recently had plenty of time off from basketball because of his brother's death (RIP), so his legs still shouldn't be shot to ****. He simply has no explosiveness or lift. Last night he got swat back strongly by Kris ****ing Humphries when he shot in the lane. Maybe the All-Star break will do him some good to rest up and he'll come back stronger.

Either way, I'm not holding my breath.

Maybe he should take some time off and go get that Kobe procedure in Germany.. (half-serious)

Seems AGame is underrating defense if he really thinks that the knicks are "****ed" if jeffries is in their crunch time lineup. plain and simple, during the 10 games with lin jeffries>amare has been all season. sure it could be a bit of amare running bad or something and thats fine, but if amare doesn't improve and were ****ed with jeffries, id love to hear what you think we are with amare

if we lose the next 2 games the anti-melo backlash is gonna be really really annoying. of course if melo doesn't play better that would be annoying too

Of course it's undiagnosed. Sometimes it's not necessarily a specific injury. But just watch him, like you said, he has lacked explosiveness this season. That's not something I think just randomly went away because he turned 29. It might take a while to get back to normal, but I trust he will. FWIW, I'd expect a death of a brother to be worse for his explosiveness than the week off he got because of it would help.

you can talk to me directly you know, you dont have to address me as if I wont be reading this lol

Yes I think the knicks are ****ed with jeffries. There's a reason he's a career backup and waiver wire fodder guy. D'antoni wonders why people boo him. It's because he misses more high percentage shots than anyone I've ever seen. He's actually a bigger liability on offense than Amare is on defense. He has been better than Amare this season in terms of value, but that's not saying much. I already acknowledged Amare has been bad, but it's the idea that he will be this bad forever that I disagree with. People are sooo quick to assume athletes are terrible after bad short stretches. Recency bias I guess.

Yea if Amare doesn't improve, we're in trouble probably unless Lin is really as good as Derrick Rose or something. But, like I said, we're in trouble with Jeffries anyway, so we go down with the ship. It's not quite the same but the best comparison I can use is the Yankees. They have a team of mostly inflexible players, especially in the lineup. You don't go out and try to figure out how to replace Arod Tex or Jeter if they aren't hitting. You instead realize that you're only as good as your stars (even if they're not stars anymore), and you're not gonna win if they don't do what they're supposed to do.

Jeffries and Chandler on the floor together is an offensive nightmare. Even with Lin/Melo/Fields or Lin/Melo/Smith or whatever it would be a huge problem. We'd have no offensive creation from either of our big men. A lot of people said Chandler was a great fit for our team in the off-season, I agreed, and he's played very well. But he's only a great fit because Amare is supposed to be on the court playing great offense and lackluster defense. Granted we have a pg now who can score but it doesn't affect our frontcourt.

Cliffs: We should be talking about "how can we get Amare back to his old self" and not "how can we trade/kill Amare so Jeffries gets to play in his stead.

Problem is we run out of possibilities after "build time machine."

we could threaten to rape his kids or something if he doesnt start to play better

it's a rough gig but someones gotta step up

i refuse to believe that jeffries on offense<amare on defense. its impossible. amare is arguably the worst defender in the NBA. the fact that he rebounds so poorly for his position makes it worse. not only does he cost us points with his poor man to man/help D, he gives teams 2nd possessions with his lazy "boxouts" and inability to rebound well. jeffries is a decent offensive rebounder, and doesn't use many possessions. i mean i dont like him that much and hes horrid to watch on offense, but there is absolutely no way he hurts our offense as much as amare hurts our D.

Dude why are you even saying such things? We? Don't include anyone else in your sick and twisted ideas. And if you say you're just joking, that's not funny at all, it's incredibly disturbing. Post less, and with all due respect, seek professional help.


Jeffries does all the things that don't show up on a stat sheet, like hustle plays and taking charges. He grabs offensive rebounds. There's a reason why Lin was praising Jeffries repeatedly after games in this last winning stretch. The reason is because Jeffries contributed positively to those wins.

lol gtfo

RIGHT NOW, jeffries might be more valuable overall, though it's still probably close. You're somehow underrating Amare defensively/rebounding wise which is pretty hard to do. I don't want to get into a discussion about Amare and how bad he is on defense. Suffice to say he's not good, and never will be. But last year, his terrible defense wasn't a problem for anyone.

The point is, Jeffries is not good enough to play significant minutes for a winning team, especially not the way this team is now built. So our choices are:
struggle with Amare in the lineup until he rights himself
or
lose ball games

contrary to media hype

knicks were winning with solid ass defense during the streak

jeffries n chandler together is not only not a nightmare, its our best defensive frontcourt

Sure it is. But if we put in shumpert and took out melo than we'd be even better. Chandler is more than enough defensively downlow. To have two bigs with no offense except dunks and putbacks is ridic.

Problem is amare is an inefficient offensive player this season too. We wouldn't be having this conversation if he was averaging 20-24 points on 60%ts.

You can live with Amare's D when he is one of the more efficient high usage bigs of his era. But if he is an inefficient offense player too then he is jus fla out a negative player.

Agree. I just dont see why his career is over just because hes had a bad less than 30 gms. Hes had a lot going on. If he gets back to normal hell be heaps better than jeffries

Amare has been bad since second half or last third of last season though. Turned out he had an injury but at 29 years old, he is right at about the age big PFs take a nosedive athletically, though still a little early.

I believe Jeffries started 5 out of the 7 games of the Linsanity winning streak and played significant minutes in the others.

Nets win: 31 min
Jazz win: 34 min
Wash win: 26 min
LA win: 33 min
Minny win: 30 min
Toronto win: 19 min
SAC win: 23 min


Man looking at the starting lineups during some of those games it's unbelievable that we didn't get blown out in every one.

No wonder Lin was praising him after a number of those games. Emphatically I might add too. And Lin's a pretty smart guy.

It's not funny and it's quite disturbing to even think that way. In the future lets not talk about raping children. Thanks.

I thought it was pretty funny. you guys are sick if you actually think of "raping his kids" when I say "rape his kids"

it's a joke. lol, on a forum where people talk about AIDS infested this and that every 2 seconds you wouldnt think every1 wouldn't be so sensitive

AGame thinks yall need to chill