Wasn’t me. I’ve been really close to calling those two idiots many times but never have.

I turned it off after the fumble due to birthday festivities and moving into my first house today. What a surprise to come back to! Leggooooo!

Was Mark Wahlberg helping you move?

Snapped from the Pats 45. Brady passes from the Pats 40 to Danny at the Pats 37. He catches and then passes from the Pats 41.5 yard line and Lewis catches at the 42 yard line. So I guess legal.

I pay for these wins by aging a lot quicker. I mean in hindsight these wins are the sweetest but watching it unfold is brutal at times.

Neither pass looked forward to me.

FYP

Here we go again.....

yay we won.

I'm taking this as evidence--maybe even proof--that I'm right, and everyone else is wrong!

From an article about Belichick and Zolak:

Now, if you tell me I'm wrong, you're also saying BELICHICK is wrong! Try to say THAT out loud without sounding foolish!

I never thought the decision to run a passing play was bad. Given the time on the clock after Lynch's first down run and the Seahawks only having one timeout left, it was necessary for them to pass once if they ran plays on 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down.

The only problem I had with the Seahawks' playcalling was that they let the clock run down too much after their 1st down play. Because of that, they put themselves in a spot where they might have to pass twice if they completed a pass but didn't score a touchdown (for example, Butler simply stuffed the Seahawks receiver at the one yard line and the clock kept running).

Passing on second down made defending the Seahawks harder. On an incomplete pass, the Patriiots would still have to worry about a running play or passing play on 3rd down.

However, if the Seahawks ran on second down, were kept out of the endzone, and had to stop the clock with their last time out, then they were probably committed to passing into the endzone on 3rd down.

There was not enough time on the clock to run on 2nd down, run on 3rd down, and run on 4th down even if the Seahawks rushed their plays.

I've been saying this for years. No one will listen--they have it in their heads that Lynch was unstoppable, so you won't need all three cracks at it, I guess.

But now I got Belichick on my side--I can't lose.

(Lombardi likes to point out, "We had FIVE defensive linemen on the field! If they ran Lynch there, they'd LOSE yards!")

Calling that pass the worst play in Super Bowl History is results-oriented thinking.

95% of the time it doesn't result in a TD, it's an incompletion and they have 2 more plays to score.

Atlanta's play calling after the Julio Jones catch last year is orders of magnitude worse. All they needed to do was take a knee 3 times and kick a FG to ice the game.

Yeah, Falcons handed us the SB. That exact play Seahawks ran almost never results in an interception. It took a crazy confluence of events including a missed pick, a ridiculously good read of exactly what was happening by Butler combined with a quick & direct reaction to the right spot, & he still had to make a really nice catch.

I'm finding that I care about this super bowl less than previous games. Probably partly super bowl fatigue, but also think it's due to caring less about Brady's legacy the more he just seems like a kooky ******* with a crazy snake oil salesman doctor

Tbh, none of that bothers me. I care about the game and how the players perform. Their personalities, politics, relationships, off-field behaviors are irrelevant to me if they perform on the field.

To quote Vince Lombardi - "Winning isn't the most important thing, it's THE ONLY THING."

Yeah, I've never been a big Brady legacy guy, & even more disinterested once Peyton retired & it was ldo obvious who had the better career.

I might care less than in past years due to last year's feeling kind of like a gift, but I'm sure I will care a lot while they're actually playing, & be really excited if they win.

that play by Butler was insane and while it's understandable that people discuss the playcall, I'd have been more interested in a discussion where the INT ranks in all time most memorable SB plays. Most memorable OAT by a defender perhaps? Ive only watched since 2013 so idk.

Don't forget that Butler made two game-saving plays on that drive. When Kearse made the miracle catch on his back, he was still not down and Butler pushed him out of bounds with no other defender in the area.

7 defensive players have been Super Bowl MVPs, and one of them, Dallas LB Chuck Howley won the MVP even though his team lost, so there might be a long list.

This part def true. I obv want the GOAT to win all he can and respect the football career to no end, but I find myself not really disagreeing anymore when people say "I don't like the guy" (off the field).

(ETA: and even moreso with Kraft)

I agree

Yea I may have overstated a bit - I'm obviously going to be watching the game and screaming at my TV all the while - but it just feels a bit different. Of course, it may be that I was becoming a football fan right as Brady began his career, so it is tough for me to mentally separate brady from the pats

I guess I just don't see the douchebaggery that you guys do. Seems like a great all around guy to me. Shrug.

Same. I do think a lot of his health view stuff is ridiculous but he feels it's worked for him, I don't think he's lying about how he feels about it just to sell stuff. Placebo effect can be a real thing as well. And I don't know enough about the whole thing so there prob are some parts that actually are useful even if a lot of it is useless. If he was peddling nonsense he didn't believe in it would be douchey if it was going to have any negative impact on people, but he seems to genuinely believe in it and unless I'm unaware of something it doesn't seem like the stuff he's doing would negatively impact someone, it just wouldn't be as helpful as he'd like to believe.