Followup Q's:

--Where do the scalpers hang? Can we get near the stadium without a ticket?

--Do their prices actually drop significantly after kickoff? I've heard yes ("of course! they don't want to eat them!") and no ("they'd rather eat them than damage their own market"). Please don't answer this one, unless you have actual experience--it won't help me if you shout the way you think the world "obviously!" works.

--We're willing to watch the game on tv in Foxboro, if that's where the scalpers are and we can't find a price that doesn't turn our stomachs. If they won't let us near Patriot Place without tickets, we need ideas. Thanks.

1 Brady to Edelman for a 1st down

2 White picks up a chunk of yards on 2nd and 1

3 Brady blocks for Edelman

4 Great 1st down by James White

5 Bills ST fumble

6 Flowers tackles McCoy

7 The Clydesdale gallops to a 1st down

8 Brady to Hogan to the 40

9 Edelman picks up a 1st down to keep the drive alive

10 PBU by Gilmore

11 JMac forces a 3 and out

12 James White picks up a nice 1st down

13 Brady connects with Gronk for a 1st down

14 Pat Chung stops McCoy

15 Edelman leaps to pick up this first down

16 Blindside hit on Dmac

17 Van Noy and Grigsby stop McCoy

18 Guy and Flowers stop McCoy

19 Brady to Gordon for 18

20 Pats Fumble Recovery

21 Brady to Gronk bobble catch

22 Brady to Edelman for a 1st and more

23 CPatt rips off a big run

24 White rushing TD

25 McCoy gets rocked on this play

26 End Zone breakup by JMac

27 Bills TD initially ruled a catch

28 DMac pick six

29 Clayborn sacks Andersen

30 Van Noy sacks Andersen into oblivion

Anyone else surprised by Devin's speed during that Pick-6 return? Isn't he, like, a 20-year veteran?

I know he's not, just seems like he's been around forever.

You guys are still ignoring my tickets questions, but it looks like we're not going to the game, only thing left is to find a place to watch. Someone suggested a Vikings bar in Cambridge, but it looks a little hoity-toity for our style. I'm thinking I might take 'em down to Lansdown St for Cask N' Flagon and Bleacher Bar.

Anyone here ever watch games there in winter? Will they have all the 1:00 NFL games? Pats-Vikes are 4:25 that day.

Mccourtys acceleration to the ball was asinine. I thought that last night and someone mentioned it to me today too. That’s as quick as I’ve seen a defender jump a pass.

Mccourtys was athletically more impressive imo. But touché nevertheless.

Well yeah, but it seemed like a good excuse to post that happy memory.

never wrong to post that, obv.

i dunno if this is true, but it seems really impressive if it is

Anderson's route at the end of the return made me laugh. Just #nope

Not surprising at all. Hes been the fastest guy on the team for a long time.

Catching Temon Smith from behind (and almost out of the play) vs KC:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxzE...layer_embedded

Hey, look at me, expert talent evaluator!

Nice clip, Kurn. Looked like a Cheetah Chasing Prey video.

1 Brady to White for a 1st down

2 Tom just wants that 1k rushing stat

3 White gets the TD

4 Gilmore breakup on 2nd and goal

5 Clayborn ends the drive

6 Jules picks up a 1st down

7 Nice punt by Ryan Allen

8 Good pressure by Flowers here

9 CPatt storms his way to a 1st down

10 Brady to Gordon to midfield

11 Brady flea flicker to wide open Edelman

12 Good pressure by Adam Butler

13 Look at this block by Barner

14 Gordon catch that wasn’t

15 McCourty on Graham in the end zone

16 CPatt and his jersey go for just about a 1st down

17 Whitehead ejection play

18 CPatt goes for another 1st down

19 CPatt TD

20 Brady to Gordon for a 1st down

21 Brady to Flash for another 1st down

22 A rare Dwayne Allen sighting

23 A Packer gets beaned with the penalty flag

24 Roughing penalty that keeps the Pats drive alive

25 Gilmore fumble recovery

26 Brady to Dorsett for a much needed 1st down

27 Brady with a dart to Edelman

28 Brady to Edelman to White to the red zone

29 James White punches it in for a TD

30 JMac with a huge pass breakup

31 Clayborn sacks Rogers and Flowers’ foot

32 Edelman picks up a speedy 1st down

33 Flash 55yd TD AHHHHHH

34 Flores emoting mild displeasure

35 Aaron comes up empty on 4th and 4

36 Brady to Flash works even with too many men on the field

I had to work, didn't get to watch. I have questions:

--I bet GB, I didn't think our D could hold Godgers under 30. I've read that Pack was picking up 5-6 YPC yet Beav kept calling pass plays. My Q: who stopped GB offense, NE D or GB coach?

--Failed 4th-and-goal conversion in a tie game had folks here lit. Again, I was working and couldn't see it, but I assured everyone that if BB thought it was a good idea, then I was OK with it. You folks who saw the game: thoughts?

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Hilarious argument from loudest guy after that play:

LOUD GUY: You take the FG there! Points have been hard to come by!

YTF: They scored 17 in the first half, and this was their first possession of the 2nd half, and they marched right down to the goal line. You can debate the decision, but you CAN'T say, "Points have been hard to come by!"

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Young Patrick Chung was so frustrating to watch.
Old Patrick Chung is a joy.

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I keep referring to our other safeties as:

#32: "McCourtey"
#30: "McCourtey's brother"

Pats' pass rush/pass D was frustrating AR all night. Flowers kept forcing him to move.

Plus, Gilmore takes away everybody's #1 receiver, so the D just has to scheme to stop the rest.

Pats played essentially a passing down D-Line most of the first half to tempt Packers to run the ball, which they did pretty successfully until Jones coughed it up on the first play of the 4th.

I was at the game and was fine with going for it on 4th there but the play call was awful. Most around me agreed.

Have to go for it there. No brainer. Weird series of play calls, though.

How did the pats lose by 24? The stats line looks even besides rushing and no turnovers

What stats looked even? passing yards?

Brady completed >50% of his passes, Mariota was 67%. They ran for 150, we barely got 50. They had guys open all day, none of our guys were ever open.

That opening kickoff was the harbinger. Pats have long prided themselves on their kick coverage, but TEN was flying while we looked like we were jogging. I got that sense the whole day.

Bye week coming at the right time.

1 Brady to Edelman 36yd

2 Van Noy stops Maguire for -2

3 Brady to Gordon for a 1st down and more

4 Brady hits Hogan on a cross for 20yd

5 Brady to Gronk TD

6 Brady to Gronk 15yd

7 Brady to Gordon 16yd

8 Michel runs for a 1st down

9 Brady to Edelman sideline catch for a 1st down

10 Brady to Gordon 13yd

11 Gilmore picks off McCown

12 Sony Michel 31yd run

13 CPatt 3rd and 1 conversion

13b Sony Michel gets bent backward

14 CPatt 4th and 1 conversion

15 Van Noy comes in unblocked on McCown

16 Brady to Hogan 27yd

17 White picks up huge yards on the ground

18 Brady to Edelman TD

19 Wise sacks McCown

20 Sony Michel 33yd run

21 Brady to Gordon 17yd 3rd and 10 conversion

22 Brady to Edelman to inside the 5

23 Michel TD

24 Great end zone breakup by Gilmore

25 Endzone breakup by JMac

26 White 20+ yd rush

Nice win, gentlemen. Let's go.

1 Roberts came to play today

2 Brady to Edelman 13yd

3 Brady to CPatt for a 1st and more

4 Burkhead is back for a 1st down

5 Edelman takes it to the redzone

6 Develin gets a TD on the ground

7 Butler sacks Cousins

8 Great pressure up the middle by Van Noy

9 Bailey’s kick is no good

10 The Clydesdale hits 1000 yards

10b Rushing record replay angle

11 Nice tackle by Hightower here

12 Great pressure by Trey Flowers up the middle

13 Burkhead picks up a 1st down

14 James White gets the ball on this misdirection play

15 James White gets tackled, spins, and keeps going

16 Brady to White redzone catch

17 Great tackle by DMac on 3rd and 17

18 Brady winking

19 Stellar punt by Ryan Allen

20 CPatt returns it to the 40

21 Brady to CPatt 29yd

22 Brady to Hogan conversion on 4th and 1

23 Rudolph challenge play

24 Brady to Gordon 24yd

25 Brady to Gronk for a 1st down

26 James White picks up a 1st down on the ground

27 Brady to Gordon TD

28 Flowers sacks Cousins

29 Jules takes it to midfield on a PR and no flag!

30 Feast your eyes on this sensible 3rd and inches playcall

31 James Develin touchdown machine

32 Guy stuff on 4th and inches

33 BB and Thielen exchange pleasantries

34 JMac with a great tackle on Thielen

35 Gilmore with a great tackle to end the Vikings’ drive

36 Who else but Duron Harmon

37 Jones game sealing interception

38 Tom wants his kneel down recorded correctly

The Patriots can win the AFC East for the tenth year in a row with a win in Miami next Sunday. It would also be 15 wins in the past 16 seasons and 16 wins in the past 18 seasons.

The Pats would currently be the #2 seed and have the heads-up tie-breaker against both Kansas City and Houston.

1. Kansas City 10-2
2. New England 9-3
3. Houston 9-3
4. Pittsburgh 7-4-1

5. LA Chargers 9-3
6. Baltimore 7-5

7-10. Miami, Indianapolis, Denver, Tennessee 6-6

Houston has the softest schedule going forward and it's not hard to envision them running the table and going 13-3.


Remaining Schedules (.500+ opponents bolded)
New England: @ Miami, @ Pittsburgh, vs. Buffalo, vs. NY Jets

Kansas City: vs. Ravens, vs. LA Chargers, @ Seattle, vs. Oakland

Houston: vs. Indianapolis, @ NY Jets, @ Philadelphia, vs. Jaguars

Pittsburgh: @ Oakland, vs. New England, @ New Orleans, vs. Cincinnati

LA Chargers: vs. Cincinnati, @ Kansas City, vs. Baltimore, @ Denver


If you play around with scenarios here,

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine

the Patriots win some tie-breaker scenarios with the Chargers and lose others.

You can find results where the Patriots get the #2 or #3 seed in three-way ties with Houston and San Diego. So, not every tie-breaker is to our advantage.

Houston has the HU tiebreaker.

Looks like NE could win out and KC and Houston drop 1 game, same with Pitt and SD.

The Pats beat Houston in week 1.

You are right, I was think they just played them but it was the Titans.