Like you all, I'm pretty optimistic on Dobson. Even when he was dropping passes, he was at least able to get open on deeper routes, which is way more than they've got from the other 2nd and 3rd round WRs. The fact that his Target per Snap percentage was so similar to vets like Edelman and Amendola seems to imply to me that he was generally doing what Brady expected him to, as well.

I think they may use a higher-than-we-expect pick on a Tackle. Solder's concussions are starting to mount, Vollmer is coming back from a major injury (that should heal, but for a guy that's just signed his 2nd contract, he's not young), and Cannon is in the last year of his contract. They took Solder 1 year ahead of when they *needed* a LT (since they still had Light), and they may do the same again this year. Unless they really like Svitek or one of the practice squad Ts, of course.

If its intentional on deep passes, where an interception gives the ball to the other team 50 yards downfield, its an atrocious job by everyone making the decision.

I think its mostly just inaccurate throws. He had a number of misses this year (i.e Edelman in the AFCCG) when there was really no need to make a "safe" throw.

I guess I'm suggesting that his caution on deep throws is so practiced and in-grained, that even when there's a busted coverage, he's going to miss long (or put it right on the sideline) more often than other QBs. I agree that it's a problem/mistake, especially as the Patriots play better teams. I just think it's perhaps more fixable than if his accuracy fell off a cliff due to some physical problem or skill being diminished. I think having a bigger WR like Dobson that he trusts to go get the ball could help.

I still think that incomplete pass deep pass in the AFCCG was on Edelman. He had time to take his route deeper and kept angling across the field for some reason. Maybe he didn't see the ball well or something.

Anyway for the most part Brady has been bad for a while with the deep ball, although he hasn't had any talented outside receivers for a while either which probably makes him look worse than he is.

Yeah that says it perfectly IMO

I follow this guy on twitter mostly for his pre-draft stuff but he wrote a article on Pats cap situation. Its pretty basic and just talks about the players likely to get cut/restructured. I think we pretty much talked about everyone he mentions already ITT.

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2014/...breakdown.html

That seven million of carryover space is $3MM or so higher than what Ive seen.

The Mankins move would be clutch if they could do something there, with the Hernandez dead money this year spreading that out to later years makes sense

I still don't think enough attention is given to the contracts given out to Hernandez and Gronk. These were early "smart" extensions given with the expectation that these two TE studs would be the backbone of the NE offense through the end of Brady's career. The Pats had an offensive vision, and it all went to **** in a heartbeat.

No one sitting here in 2011 could have envisioned this scenario. The Pats have been playing catch-up and damage-control ever since, and trotted Brady out with scotch tape and bubble gum on the way to 12-4 and another Conference title game.

This organization is flailing due to the disaster of the Hernandez contract and Gronk's injury history. Their offensive plan has gone to ****, and they are likely searching for a solution given the offensive production dip and the surrounding factors. The debate over keeping Edelman is just a byproduct of this team's long-term offensive plans being crazily shuffled.

What fascinates me these days is wondering how the org views Brady in the here and now, and how they value supporting him. Kraft is on record on being against going "all-in" for the remainder of the Brady window.

Are the fans' interests aligned with the owner's interests? Do the fans care about capitalizing on a unique championship equity window more than the ownership does?

I dont agree with the narrative that they left Brady high and dry last season. You have to think Gronk would play more than 5-6 games. They couldnt have had any idea Hernandez wasnt going to play because he was arrested for murder. They brought in Amendola who got injured week 1 and was playing hurt all year. Donald Jones retired a couple of days before the first pre-season game.

Vereen had a great game in week 1 and missed the next 8 weeks on IR. Dobson was starting to show serious signs of improvement and suffered and injury and wasnt the same again for the rest of the year.

The Offense they put together in the off-season was as good as any in the league imo, unfortunately due to circumstances they cant control it all fell apart and I find it hard to blame them for that.

Aswell as that I honestly think they gave Brady a championship caliber defense that was evident during the first few weeks of the season. Again they suffered key injury after key injury and it fell apart.

As far as Krafts comments, I dont expect him to say anything different. IIRC in that interview on Felger and Mazz when he talked about not loading up in any 1 year he also said that nothing is more important to him than winning championships.

The team isnt that far away as its built right now. Id like to see them pick up a pass rusher, safety, TE and some interior OL help. Even if they lose Edelman as long as Dobson continues his progress an Offense of Dobson, Amendola, Gronk and a new TE is pretty good.

Putting a twelve win team on the field every year isn't maximizing Brady's window?

An organization that went 51-13 in the regular season over the last four years with a Super Bowl appearance and two AFC title game appearances is flailing?

I find winning lots of games and deep playoff runs in line with my interest. YMMV I guess

Anyone who doesn't think the Patriots had a successful season (yes, there are different levels of success), is ******ed. The Patriots have been the most successful franchise, BY FAR, in the last 5, 10, 15, 20 years. To suggest otherwise is lunacy. lol at "flailing"

Agreed... how do you think perennial total **** teams like the Jaguars, Lions, or Broncos would feel hearing you call the Patriots "flailing"? Give me a break we are the best team of the modern era by far, and it wont change any time soon.

Who do you think is responsible for winning 12 games every year? McCourty? Brady gets the team to the AFCCG and then stares across the aisle at Demaryius, Julius, Decker, Welker, looks at his boy Julian as his only reliable target and says "eff me."

The Broncos won't be as strong as last year but the Pats won't enjoy as weak of a schedule as last year as well. I predict 10-6, fighting for the division.

lolz Salva.

Joe Montana and the 49ers dynasty had 12+ wins 5x in his career, with 4 SB appearances

Tom Brady and the Pats dynasty have 12+ wins 8x in his career so far, with 5 SB appearances

Some people in this thread appear to not be happy with this level of success

Joe Montana has 4 rangz. The Pats have no other goal than to get that 4th rang. it has historical marketability.

lolz Jbrochu, tell me in detail how the Pats are going to fix last year's ills and make it all good. IN DETAIL

Any thoughts on Kenny Britt coming to NE?

I like the idea. He is big (6'3''), young (25) and looking to re-establish his value. A year in NE could be very beneficial for both parties.

Don't really need any detail. They just need to stay a little healthier.

You mad BRO?

I agree, Just bc no Superbowl doesnt mean unsucessful.Maybe failure for the players so to speak but for the fans, very exciting. As a Jets fan a playoffrun is rare and when it happens theres nothing more exciting. You NE fan been in playoffs I believe what?...13 out of last 14 years? Pretty crazy.

He is a unqiue talent. When he wasnt getting introuble and when he was healthy He was like probably a top 10 WR no quesiton. I remeber one year he stated the season so blazing hot he was like leading the league as a reciever then he got hurt which was a shame....

I can see him going to NE, but as a Jets fan I would like to see him in Green/White. He is from Jersey so he is either a NYG or NYJ fan but anyways I'm sure he'd like to play close to home soI can see him coming to NYJ or going to the North East teams. (NYJ, NYG, NE, CIN, PIT, BUF, BAL, PHI, WASH)

If he gets his head on straight and can stay healthy, Boy I would love to snag him. And you can bet he will come VERY cheap, due to all his off the field and injuries problems.

Whatever you posted is meaningless, The fact of the matter is you constantly berated my posts and always enjoyed NYJ losing and quoting my posts when I was wrong...All good, no hard feeling my man....You gave me crap all year brotha....Appreciate the concern about my life sucking. Thanks for the look out!

See you next year! Its all in fun obv Jets suck so I got no dog in this fight, But hopefully we stock up on FA since we got mad space and take over this division.


- Anyways, Does NE cut Wilfork. Sure he is aging and coming off major injury but he was a rock in the middle of that line. Gonna be hard to replace.

- Talib, Would like NYJ grab him to replace Cro, Does he come back? NE really struggled without him.

- I've been reading about the possibility of NE cutting Amendola? Can that happen? Was a bad pickup IMO wayyyyy tooo injury prone and Edleman sh*t* on him. IDK why'd used want both of them since both play inside. NE wuld be dumb to let Edleman walk.

- I like the way Jamie Collins played down the stretch/Playoffs. I knew he'd be a stud.

- How is Hightower doing? Haven't really heard much from him. Need a NE fan perspective on him....High draft pick so wanna see whats the deal with him.

- Also will Gronk be out in 2014 also? I have a gut feeling NE takes Jace Amaro in Draft I really like him looks like Gronk so that could be sick. Maybe A.S.Jenkins too with him being more athletic....Would be sick duo. I don't think Eric Ebron will be available for you guys since I doubt he falls past NYJ if there isn't 1 of the top 3 WR's available.

*I know i'm a clear NYJ homer but with all thbe draft picks and cap space if NYJ can make smart moves regarding the offense and maybe sign like Jarius Byrd/TJ Ward I really think we can contend for the AFCE division. The D is gonna be top 5 but it all rides on Geno and the offense.....Cant wait!

TradeOC dont post here until you show some heart you slanking bitch. Go back to your double wide and shut the **** up.

There is nothing to fix from last year. They went 12-4 and made the AFC championship game. They will try to improve the team as always, but anyone with an IQ over 50 understands that the team doesnt need to be fixed.

They put out very good teams every year and dont get sucked into the trap of trying to pacify moron fans who want to sign every shiny bauble because ZOMG we didnt get teh rang last year and Joe Montana got 4 rangz waaaaaaah.

Dis gettin goot

Bahh haha. Heart?

Get over yourself. You're so childish. Why cant we be friends?

In all seriousness I ain't trashin' you, Ill wait till the season. GL, TTYL. Just makes you look bad and immature in all honesty when you speak nonsense like that.

**Anyways,

Any chance Edleman walks? I was very surprised at how he played. Also in the punt game he played great. Bonehead move if he walks.

This is my favorite time of NFL offseason...Watching combine and scouting the talent and debating FA potential signings. FA moves can make or break teams rosters/cap room for years to come if they make the wrong moves....Lets go!