McKinnie needs to just stay the hell out of Miami.

i strongly disagree that garnett was as good as kobe over this period, though i am not a real basketball fan and don't really know.
but anyway, even if he was as good as kobe, it would not be for "take over a game" , "impact player" reasons that were mentioned. it'd be for things that are more consistent like elite help defense and being solid if unspectacular in all areas. kobe's "impact" skills are off the charts.

Is it wrong that I don't care at all about this?

played my first game of Madden 10, can already tell it's the least realistic Madden game to date as Tyrell Johnson had 2 pick 6's and was player of the game.

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Supposedly pictures of Favre from the day after the game:

QB's job to count how many people are in the huddle before he joins the huddle.

You'll notice most QB's stand outside the huddle for a moment or 2 before they join it, that's to assure there are not 11 people in the huddle, and joining it would be the 12th.

Face it Minnesota, you got Favred.

false start on center imo

Interesting writeup on the Vikings run game by PFF's head guy (I think):

http://profootballfocus.com/forum/sh...74&postcount=1

Another post from one of the PFF guys in that thread:

SL - I agree with everything you quoted. Good article - thanks.

This stuff should be obvious to anyone who watches the team regularly, but we do not hear it from the local or national media. I wonder why?

+1

quite a few of us on 2p2 have been bitching about the whole run blocking thing for the past couple years (maybe even earlier i don't remember) nice to see people outside MN noticing
probably because the majority of the media consists of barely functioning ******s? they give RBs all the credit when things are going well and for the most part all the blame when things aren't. idk i guess they fail to realize how important an OL/proper run blocking scheme is. **** Chilly

There was an article on ESPN a few days ago that claimed the Vikings had one of the 4 best OLs in the NFL... (the other 3 being the Colts, Saints and Jets, of course)

Also, PFF wasn't putting all the blaim on the coaching staff, notice the word "execution." They think Hutch specifically had a horrendous year, Herrera had a bad year, Loadholt and Sullivan aren't great run blockers and McKinnie also had a pretty mediocre year. The only person on the team with positive marks in run blocking is exactly who you'd expect, Kleinsasser, the tackle playing TE.

mckinnie made up for his mediocre run blocking year in pass blocking...

Stuff like that ESPN article confirms that the national media are pretty much clueless.

If Hutch had a horrendous year, I think it could have been bad by his standards, but he is clearly the best OL on this team & it is not even close. I think Sullivan pretty much sucks, Loadholt might be ok someday, but is not very good right now, Herrera is not good, and McKinnie gets by on talent if he decides he wants to play, which isnt often enough imo.

The fact that overall, we have below average players on the OL, just makes the scheme work that much worse. I dont remember much turnover on the OL between Tice's last season & Chilly's 1st, but I do remember seeing significantly worse OL play overall when Chilly took over.

It does seem like just a mass of bodies, even on Peterson's long(ish) td run vs the Saints, it was a big glob to the right and Kleinsasser made a good block and Peterson made a good cut.

But it did seem like Taylor and Harvin had holes to run through, so I'm kinda conflicted. Could be small sample size or just the way the defense reacts to Peterson.

all of peterson's long runs from my memory this year were him running into the backs of his OL, the defense converging on the ball, adp breaking a tackle then making a sick cut into open space and outrunning contain man. compare to chris johnson who would just glide through giant holes untouched and just try to juke the secondary. mbn

Mike Tice as OL coach would have been such an epic offseason signing for us IMO. Instead he is going to the ****ing Bears.

Omgomgomg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac1FaUqrSxI

Priority #1 for the 2011 offseason, sign this guy!

He would look good in purple imo

in addition to being the greatest football player of alltime, randy is perhaps the best example of keepin it real in the history of mankind

Hmm, that guy does look pretty good...

I have to say, I actually think the Moss trade was worse than the Herschel Walker trade. Trade the best receiver for Napoleon Harris and Troy 'Hands' Williamson? Did they think it was a coincidence that George, Cunningham, and Culpepper all had top years in a row? T-Jack would be an all-pro. It still pisses me off to this day, ****ing ****.

Oh and Joe buck can go eat a dick, **** you, you disgusting piece of ****...

It wasn't because of Moss.. It was just Red McCombs trying to screw the organization over again on his way out the door..

Vikings owner Zygi Wilf still is upset with former owner Red McCombs for trading Randy Moss to the Raiders. Wilf said he would have never approved the trade of Moss, who was a big attraction at the gate as well being an outstanding player. The trade was made March 2, 2005, and the Wilfs purchased the team on May 25.

And then Red had the stones to say on his way out that if we won the Super Bowl the year after he left he deserved the credit.. FFS I hate that man

I've always liked Erin Henderson and even wrote an extended post about how awesome great it was that the Vikings signed him as an undrafted FA.

Pretty lol:

Of course he followed that one up with some standard cliche like "my favorite part is the crowd noise" or something like that.