Agree on the clock management. A lot of coaches seem to have trouble with this. I dont think they think about this stuff ahead of time and fail when faced with various situations. A clock management assistant would be a good idea, as Frazier probably has too much on his plate to devote time to studying/getting better at this. Frazier appears to be in over his head at times, and it appears he struggles with clock management more than anything else.

Agree on why not wait to give him an extension. However, that's not what I think will happen - Zygi is very happy with him right now, and coaches dont enter the final year of their contract often (not sure why that doesnt happen more).

I think we won 10 games despite Frazier. But who would we really get next year instead?

Dreams would be Gruden or Saban, but neither of those are coming here.

Cowher and Dungy would be excellent too, but they like their TV gigs too much.

Parcells isn't going to coach again.

Who else? Reid? Turner? meh.

He has made some nice decisions this year. Versus SF 0-0 going for it on 4th and 1 from the 1 comes to mind. He had a good a good go for 2 (to go up 14, 17?) at some point during the season as well.

this, it's not like there is an abundance of quality coaches out there.

It doesnt matter because Zygi loves him right now. There's zero chance he's not HC here next season.

I agree.

But that doesn't mean he's a good coach.

I am starting to think with a couple exceptions, like Marvin Lewis and Belichick, most coaches are equally bad at clock management and any discrepancy people notice year to year is just variance.

This

I agree.

Frazier seems worse than most at clock management imo, at least as far as Viking coaches go. Looking back, everyone after Grant was not good at clock management. lolsteckle, Burnsie, Green, Tice, chilly - all bad at that.

Even though Grant just seemed right/smarter than every other coach about basically everything, we used to complain about him being to conservative with regards to punting on 4th & 1 and stuff like that. He also stuck with his veterans too long after their primes. In hindsight, nit picking about his decisions seems silly - we'll be lucky to ever have a coach as good as Grant again.

The original walrus Holmgren, he has said he wants to coach again.

Uh saying Frazier has been bad compared to recent Vikes HC is a bit insane, have you forgotten chilly so soon

If you're talking to me, I did not say he's worse than chilly. Read what I wrote again.

Frazier just gets all the stuff wrong that every NFL HC gets wrong. The Vikings will never hire a coach who gets all the clock/game management stuff right so I don't really care. Most important thing is that the players seem to like him and the team is performing well.

I third the nomination for a new thread title btw.

Minnesota Vikings - Peekaboo

imo

awesome avatar!

yep. ppl complaining about fraizers clock management should try naming 5 current NFL HCs that are better. at least fraizer is decently aggro on 4th down.

agreed. altho if it comes out he legit alienated percy i'm gonna be changing my tune.

also i agree with the thread title change obv.

and super LOL at whoever was incredulous that someone could love randy more than adrian. randy was the funnest player to root for everrrr

Calling whatever Sherels was doing out there "covering the slot" is being extremely generous.

If he sees the field in this game they will go at him on every play

OK, maybe I'm missing something here, but why didn't Robinson continue to play on the outside with Sherels covering slot?

Then Jefferson/Cook is on the sideline.

I'm guessing that cha is suggesting they should have moved one of Jefferson/Cook to the slot to allow Robinson to play outside. Hopefully, anyway. That's better than assuming a rookie would have done better than Sherels in a position he was unfamiliar with on a defense that runs lots of zone.

Maybe I missed something but I only remember him getting exposed a handful of times when, for whatever reason, he was manning up their #1 receiver. Why he was doing that (man vs Jennings) I don't know.

A rookie would done better than Sherels in a position he was unfamiliar with on a defense that plays lots of zone.

Did you not see the Packers snap the ball and just throw it to the slot guy who Sherels had no interest in tackling?? I've never seen worse effort.

And when Jordie beat him deep they were playing cover 4. His job was to never let anyone behind him.

Let's Vikings CBs are healthy.
Packers send out 2 WRs. Vikings play a base defense with Winfield and Cook as CBs.

Packers send out 3 WRs. Cook and Robinson play on the outside Winfield covers the slot.

Now Winfield is hurt and Packers send out 3 WRs. I don't see why Sherels doesn't fill in for Winfield and Robinson and Cook play the outside.

I'm assuming 1. Winfield 2. Cook 3. Robinson 4. Jefferson 5. Sherels. With Robinson and Jefferson not comfortable playing the slot.

They could have figured something out that was better than putting Sherels in on defense. He cant play defense. Yes, moving one of the veterans to the slot and putting Robinson on the outside seems like it makes the most sense, but Robinson in the slot and Sherels on the bench would have been better than what happened imo.

Hopefully Winfield can play all game this week. If not, hopefully we figure something out better than putting Sherels on the field to play defense.

I know Robinson/Cook/Jefferson have no experience in the slot, but they have to be better than Sherels was last week.