yes this drama is just getting better and better

from rotoworld:

NFL Network's Mike Lombardi reports that he's "been hearing talk" that Tarvaris Jackson might request a trade if and when the Vikings sign Brett Favre.
Jackson, 26, has fairly respectable career stats (20:18 TDs to INTs, 58.4% completions, 10-9 record) but few clubs, if any, would look him as a potential starter for this year. Experienced only in a West Coast offense, Jackson could appeal to St. Louis, Seattle, and perhaps Washington. Chicago and Green Bay would be fair fits on paper, but Jackson almost certainly won't be dealt in the division. Jackson could probably bring back a mid- to late-round pick.

Jackson might be cut if we get Favre. He's got 1 yr left on his contract, and w/ Sage holding down the backup spot [he just signed a 3yr 12 million deal or w/e] it comes down to whether or not they think Booty's more valuable than 1 yr of TJax as the 3rd stringer. Personally I'd take 1 yr of TJax and hope to get Booty on the practice squad, but thats jmo. If Favre and Sage both get injured TJax can at least still keep the team competitive.

fwiw if TJax started for another team i'd watch all of their games.

3.4?

I would love for him to wind up starting for the Packers. Trade him for a used jock strap imo. Then Rogers needs to go down with a bad injury or something. I dont really wish that on anyone though, so maybe he can get suspended for dogfighting or something

No need to pile on, you pretty much covered my feelings about him. Hopefully Favre will audible out of his craziness, and when it works, Chilly will have no choice but to pretend it was his idea and let it ride.

I think its fairly well known that the NFL will cancel all the games after the Favre injury for a national week of mourning and Sportscenter knob-slobbery.

pretty close, 2.6 YARDS PER CATCH. Even if he's catching 75% of his targets that's still under 2 YPA

The most comical (sad) thing about that is, whatever yardage we need, when completed, the play will go for ~half or less than half of what we need, way more than most of the time. Yay Chillyball!

Where the hell are you getting your goddamn information from????? Are you an insider with the team? What has Cullpepper done since he left here? You have to accept that his career was over after that knee injury. No one cares about Brad Johnson. While I would love to have Birk back, how can you say that Childress is the reason for his departure? The Winfield situation hasn't played out yet, but hes getting old and probably only has a couple great seasons left. As far as I know Pat Williams is still on the Vikings.

Adrian Peterson had 1760 yards last year behind the horrible blocking scheme.

I get pissed off with Chilly as much as the next Viking fan, but if you were told a coach went 6-10 8-8 then 10-6 his first three years with a club most people would probably be happy with the progress the team is making.

Again, how do you know that Chilly has all the say in personnel decisions? Are you good friends with Ziggy or Spielman?

More speculation, were you in the draft room too?

The QB situation has been unfortunate, and a lot of it is his fault. He took a risk with Jackson and it didn't end up like he had hoped. Why do you think were going after Favre.

Once again this is speculation. Why the hell would Denver give up Cutler for less that what they were being offered by Chicago?

He does need to improve his clock management, but calling him the worst coach in the league is just plan wrong.

The rumors that caused the whole rift between Cutler and McDaniels were regarding McDaniels preferring Cassel to Cutler. Any trade involving Cassel would have been much cheaper than what Chicago paid.

He took over a 9-7 team, in 3 yrs he has gained a ton of talent except for one position which was the position HE was in charge of. And he has improved by 1 win... in 3 yrs. WOOO!!!

Then why the hell did we get rid of Tice? When you completely change the system its going to take some time.

How can you guys rip on Chilly for having control over personnel decisions and at the same time talk smack about him only winning because of the players he brought in?

because anyone that bad at managing a game when it is their profession has some form of ******ation

It's not like Childress only gets bashed because of hearsay and speculation. All you have to do is watch five minutes of any Vikings game to see that he's terrible.

i didn't realize that chilly defenders existed

my favorite chilly game from last year was against the giants. if they win that game they lock up a playoff berth etc. the giants dont have to play because they are already in so they sit out their stars in the second half.

in the first half with about 1:45 to go the vikes are on their 35 yard line. they have enough time to get into field goal range but you wouldnt blame them if they ran out the clock and went into the next half. first play they spread the field and t-jack throws and incomplete pass. at this point you are thinking "ok he wants to try and get downfield cool". next play he runs either ap or the fullback up the middle in a running back set. well the giants have a timeout which i dont think chilly remembered so they call it. now chilly cant run out the clock anymore so on third down they try to spread the field again and are short of first down by a bit. the giants get the ball back on about their 40 yard line with 1:20 ish to go and a decent shot at a field goal.

by this time their subs were in and they didnt capitalize on it, but that was horrible clock management by b.c. imo.

then in the second half with the vikings down by 2(i cant fully remember) they have over 3 minutes and two timeouts to drive 40-50 yards to get into field goal range. long story short they completely mismanage the clock by running ap up the middle and not going into some sort of hurry up. they are able to leave their kicker with ~50 yard field goal for them to go into the playoffs. they made the kick luckily but with that much time you would think that you could run at least a couple more plays to get a higher percentage shot.

This is a good summary of how much Viking's football I saw last year- and how I feel about Chilly as a coach.

I can't even remember what it was- but like 2 just FIRE ON THE SPOT LOLBAD decisions.

The Vikings at Green Bay game would definitely be a must-see game with Favre at QB. Being a Vike fan for the last 42 years I say bring on the old sob and see what he can do. What's the worst thing that could happen-we don't win a Super Bowl?
I am in the minority but I like TJack. He has only played a bit over a year in the NFL even though he has three years with the Vikes. I believe he is improving and has a lot of upside potential given weapons on the outside and someone besides Chilly running the offense. Drop Booty or trade him.

lol at someone actually defending childress

If I was the owner of a pro team, in any sport, the only thing a coach can do that would get him insta-fired is calling a timeout to decide whether or not to challenge a play.

Down 8. Scores TD, doesn't go for 2 [i dont care what qtr your in but for the sake of reference he was in the 3rd]

Standard, no?

edit....

Do you mean he was down 14, then scored a TD and at that point went for 2?

err i mean he's down 8. Scores and DOESNT go for 2.

as far as calling a timeout to consider challenging goes. There is a time for it. Say you have 3 time outs and on the last play of the half something happens that you might want to challenge, might as well burn a TO to give you an extra long time to look at it before deciding whether or not to challenge.

However this was clearly not the case and Chillys a ****ing idiot.

I was going to respond point by point to the Chilly defender, but you other guys covered most of it, so I'm not going to waste my time. Thanks for having my back guys.

One thing that wasn't really covered: We started the Cutler trade talks with Denver before anyone else knew he was available. We had a deal in our laps to get him, while NE got something and Denver got Cassel (other people might know the specifics better than I do, but its no secret that we were going to get him for less than Chicago gave up). According to reports that I heard locally, "someone" in the Vikings organization was not "sold" on Cutler. These reports were not a secret, and are generally accepted knowledge by people who follow the team closely. Its also common knowledge that "someone" is Chilly.

When the deal fell through, word leaked out to Cutler that his new coach was trying to trade him. After that, he asked for a trade and the price went way up when Denver found out all these other teams wanted him really bad.

Nothing like a 1 point deficit to motivate the troops so they don't get complacent.