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04-12-2019 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by PoseidonCubed
I know I should probably be past this by now, but I’m still amazed that someone with the athleticism of Wiggins isn’t at least average. Yet he’s shooting 52% at the basket (baffling), and eFG-wise, being guarded by Standrew is the same as having a wide open shot.



I just hope it takes a little more than looking Taylor in the eyes and promising to do a good job to get hired.
Hopefully he allows the new POBO to make his own decisions about trading Wiggins and keeping or firing Saunders.

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Originally Posted by FARGOpoker
Even though I like Ryan Saunders, now that Dave Joerger is available, who do you think the Wolves are better of with?
Joerger is a good coach. Saunders isnt, at least not yet. I'm surprised the Kings fired Joerger.
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04-27-2019 , 06:32 AM
Kind of amazing how ****ty the Wolves cap situation is after 2.5 years of Thibs.

Teague
Wiggins/Okogie
Covington/Bates-Diop
Saric
Towns/Dieng

+the #10 pick is $114M, already 6M over the cap and maybe 15M below the luxury tax line. The Wolves have a 9.2M MLE that they could use on Derrick Rose (or someone else) but if they do they probably have to let Tyus Jones walk. A league min guy or two is gonna have to play minutes next season. Are we tanking? Are we competing? It seems like we're just stuck in no-man's-land.

As a bonus, we're already capped out for the NEXT season too, even with me letting Tyus, Rose, Saric, and Teague walk for nothing.
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04-27-2019 , 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Kind of amazing how ****ty the Wolves cap situation is after 2.5 years of Thibs.

Teague
Wiggins/Okogie
Covington/Bates-Diop
Saric
Towns/Dieng

+the #10 pick is $114M, already 6M over the cap and maybe 15M below the luxury tax line. The Wolves have a 9.2M MLE that they could use on Derrick Rose (or someone else) but if they do they probably have to let Tyus Jones walk. A league min guy or two is gonna have to play minutes next season. Are we tanking? Are we competing? It seems like we're just stuck in no-man's-land.

As a bonus, we're already capped out for the NEXT season too, even with me letting Tyus, Rose, Saric, and Teague walk for nothing.
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05-01-2019 , 05:25 PM


I don't really know enough to have an opinion on this. What do others think?
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05-01-2019 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SL__72


I don't really know enough to have an opinion on this. What do others think?
yeah, I like this a lot. After the Clippers guy dropped out, Rosas was clearly #1 on the list of four that they were interviewing.

Rosas>>Langdon>>>>Booth>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Billups imo.
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05-01-2019 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by cha59
yeah, I like this a lot. After the Clippers guy dropped out, Rosas was clearly #1 on the list of four that they were interviewing.

Rosas>>Langdon>>>>Booth>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Billups imo.
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05-01-2019 , 09:50 PM
I'm skimming through the comments on Canis. I think about half or more like Rosas best, but close to half would have rather had Langdon. No one is very disappointed with this hire and many are pretty excited.

It sounds like Saunders has a good chance to keep his job. Layden's future is uncertain.

Rosas seems very smart. He has a good grasp of analytics and how the game has changed the past few years. I've heard he was involved in the process when HOU got both Harden and Paul, and was also heavily involved with getting Capella and some of the other good role players HOU has now. Hopefully he can figure out the least damaging way to dump Wiggins and get the ship pointed in the right direction.
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05-15-2019 , 05:27 AM
Okay so we moved down in the lottery yet again.
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05-15-2019 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Okay so we moved down in the lottery yet again.
yup. Our luck continues to suck. At least the Lakers & Knicks didnt get top two picks.
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05-15-2019 , 07:33 PM
Any ideas about who might stand out at 11? Maybe trading down would be a good idea.
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05-22-2019 , 08:36 AM
Anyone think that a team would take Wiggins and the 11 for a lower first rounder?
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05-22-2019 , 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by onedollaratatime
Anyone think that a team would take Wiggins and the 11 for a lower first rounder?
I think we can only dream about that.

I'm guessing Wiggins stays with us this season because I think his trade value has pretty much bottomed out. After showing zero effort 90% of the time for four different head coaches, I dont see how any team can think they can say the magic words to get him to play smart and try hard to be a good player. I think our new pobo probably recognizes all this.

Each season after this one, his contract is less of an albatross. In addition, there's a non-zero chance they get him to shoot less long twos this season, which could make him a less bad player. If that happens, maybe they can dump him next off season without having to give up as much.
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05-23-2019 , 07:57 PM
Huge news that Towns missed out on all-NBA

First good break in years
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05-24-2019 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Huge news that Towns missed out on all-NBA

First good break in years
It is only huge if we can use that extra money well.
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05-24-2019 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe
Huge news that Towns missed out on all-NBA

First good break in years
Seems like KAT got screwed hard there. How did Gobert make it over him? Doesn't even seem close that KAT makes 3rd team. Gobert better defensively, but don't think that's enough to outweigh how much better KAT was offensively.
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05-27-2019 , 05:49 PM
If the wolves let all of their free agents go (including Tyus and Rose) they are still over the cap by $7.7M.

Teague
Wiggins
Covington
Saric
Towns

Okogie
Dieng
KBD
Cam Renyolds

Are the only guys on the roster. Much needs to be done. The 9.2M MLE is available, and the team is 20M under the luxury tax (no way to use that other than to spend it on Tyus or Rose)

Ahh, remember 2 offseasons ago when everyone was saying how Thibs was setting us up to have flexibility this offseason? I mean, i guess if it was just Jimmy walking instead of us having RoCo and Saric under contract we would instead have $6M in cap space, and no MLE.
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07-01-2019 , 03:56 AM
Wolves flirt with DAR, only to have him sign with someone else on the first day of free agency.

I wonder if it'll be bad for team chemistry that Rosas and Towns were publicly trying to trade everyone on the roster for cap space and then failed.
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07-01-2019 , 10:02 AM
I doubt it. I like the fact that he's being aggressive. I doubt we're done making moves. It sounds like we can dump Wiggins and not have to give up assets or take back bad money in the process.

I think Golden State might have made a big mistake in hard capping themselves out for a player like Russell. They have 4 guys getting all the money and basically no money to fill out their roster.

I really hope the lakers do not get Leonard.
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07-01-2019 , 07:25 PM
ngl, I really got my hopes up yesterday for DLO. Oh well, maybe it’s something we can revisit later if it turns out to be a weird fit in GS.

Jon K reported today that Wiggins is apparently really upset with us now, which is rich. What’s he gonna do, demand a trade?
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07-01-2019 , 10:27 PM
Standrew can go **** himself. Who gives a **** what he feels.
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07-02-2019 , 07:40 AM
If the Wigs story is true, further proves how immature he is and how he’s nowhere near the caliber personality to fill his contract. The NBA is a BUSINESS and he’s getting paid a ****ton of money to play the game. The attitude that true pros take is ‘I want to be here but I understand the business side of it so I’m gonna go out and do what I do until they tell me otherwise’.

Again if true tells me Wigs is also a spoiled baby. Maybe if he had the relative value that DAR did we wouldn’t have to explore trade options for his overpaid ass which he could get by oh, I don’t know, playing better. Just a thought.
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07-02-2019 , 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PoseidonCubed
ngl, I really got my hopes up yesterday for DLO. Oh well, maybe it’s something we can revisit later if it turns out to be a weird fit in GS.
The more I looked at his stats, the less bummed out I am about not getting him. He was a bad player up until last year when he became a high usage, average player by advanced stats. His value is in his potential to get better. If last season was his ceiling, we might have dodged a bullet.


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Originally Posted by PoseidonCubed
Jon K reported today that Wiggins is apparently really upset with us now, which is rich. What’s he gonna do, demand a trade?


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Originally Posted by onedollaratatime
Standrew can go **** himself. Who gives a **** what he feels.
agree

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Originally Posted by ACG2x
If the Wigs story is true, further proves how immature he is and how he’s nowhere near the caliber personality to fill his contract. The NBA is a BUSINESS and he’s getting paid a ****ton of money to play the game. The attitude that true pros take is ‘I want to be here but I understand the business side of it so I’m gonna go out and do what I do until they tell me otherwise’.

Again if true tells me Wigs is also a spoiled baby. Maybe if he had the relative value that DAR did we wouldn’t have to explore trade options for his overpaid ass which he could get by oh, I don’t know, playing better. Just a thought.
agree
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07-02-2019 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cha59
The more I looked at his stats, the less bummed out I am about not getting him. He was a bad player up until last year when he became a high usage, average player by advanced stats. His value is in his potential to get better. If last season was his ceiling, we might have dodged
Yeah, it would be very Wolves to trade for DLO after his breakout season only to have all those difficult floaters and contested 2s he takes stop going in the moment he joins us.

I guess we just have to be patient. It will take years to undo all the Thibs.
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07-02-2019 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PoseidonCubed
Yeah, it would be very Wolves to trade for DLO after his breakout season only to have all those difficult floaters and contested 2s he takes stop going in the moment he joins us.

I guess we just have to be patient. It will take years to undo all the Thibs.
agree.

In addition to the good work in the draft (imo), I like the fact that Rosas has not done anything stupid to **** up our cap situation like Thibs did. Rosas is working within the limitations of what Thibs screwed up with his eye on the future.

Not much discussion on the draft yet, but I like the trade and I like the pick. Many "experts" had Culver as the 3rd best player in the draft and some had him as high as 2. He reminds me of Okogie, but longer and more skilled offensively. He has a good BBIQ and plays his ass off. He's projected to be somewhere between an avg starter and a low level all star I think, depending how much his shot improves. I read comparisons to him with K Leonard are pretty similar, similar body type, similar stats (Leonard always rebounded better, but Culver had some other stats that were better), but no one expects him to be quite as good as Leonard is. Giving up Saric was not a bad price to pay to move up for him.

Rosas has given me no reason to doubt that he knows what he's doing. yet.
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07-02-2019 , 02:50 PM
There was a correlation of if we got DAngelo, than most likely Wiggins was gone. So most of my disappointment isnt with the wolves not getting DAngelo but rather with Wiggins still being on the team.

Yes, DAngelo hasnt had a great career. Even by some metrics, last years numbers arent as good as advertised. Hes probably a fringe top 50 player. HOWEVER would I rather have him over Standrew, both on similar deals, 100 out of 100 times. And Id bet most people would agree.
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