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Old 02-15-2019, 04:30 PM   #11051
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves- Re-re-rebuilding Time

I'm a big Ryan Saunders fan. Let's keep him. The team is playing really hard and is fun despite everyone being hurt.

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Old 02-15-2019, 04:31 PM   #11052
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves- Re-re-rebuilding Time

Team needs to get to 45 wins imo to have a realistic shot at playoffing. Thats 18-7 in the last 25. I also heard our schedule is tough in March. Dont like our chances..
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:11 PM   #11053
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Team needs to get to 45 wins imo to have a realistic shot at playoffing. Thats 18-7 in the last 25. I also heard our schedule is tough in March. Dont like our chances..
45 wins seems about right.

ESPN has us at 4.5% to make the playoffs. 538 has us at 11%. Unlikely, but not impossible.

We dug ourselves a deep hole with those last three road losses that were all vs teams we should have beaten. Needing to go 15-10 the rest of the way would be hard enough. 18-7 doesnt leave any room for error.
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Old 02-15-2019, 06:33 PM   #11054
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves- Re-re-rebuilding Time

The 4-9 start before we traded Jimmy didn't help
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Old 02-16-2019, 12:16 PM   #11055
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The 4-9 start before we traded Jimmy didn't help
True. Lots of things about this season have led to the bad record. At least that 4-9 start led to Thibs getting fired.
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Old 02-19-2019, 03:20 AM   #11056
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves- Re-re-rebuilding Time

I predict that Wiggins will NOT be in a T-wolves uniform for the 19-20 season.

Once Kawhi leaves, Toronto is going to blow it up, so they might as well trade for Canada's very own.

In fact, that is exactly what I predict. Andrew Wiggins will be a Toronto Raptor.
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Old 02-19-2019, 08:55 AM   #11057
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I predict that Wiggins will NOT be in a T-wolves uniform for the 19-20 season.

Once Kawhi leaves, Toronto is going to blow it up, so they might as well trade for Canada's very own.

In fact, that is exactly what I predict. Andrew Wiggins will be a Toronto Raptor.
I really hope you're right, but Toronto's GM is smart, so I highly doubt he's going to trade for Standrew.

I think if he is traded, its much more likely to be to a different team that thinks the way the Wolves usually do - "He's so talented!! He just hasnt been under the right leadership yet. I bet we can get the best out of him if we say the right things." and/or we get some very bad contracts in return for him that are attached to less talented players. I'm pretty sure the ship has sailed on getting positive value in return by trading him.
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Old 02-19-2019, 01:53 PM   #11058
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I predict that Wiggins will NOT be in a T-wolves uniform for the 19-20 season.

Once Kawhi leaves, Toronto is going to blow it up, so they might as well trade for Canada's very own.

In fact, that is exactly what I predict. Andrew Wiggins will be a Toronto Raptor.
Please dont get my hopes up.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:10 PM   #11059
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves- Re-re-rebuilding Time

Serious questions: could the Timberwolves literally give Standrew away right now?
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Old 02-26-2019, 11:47 AM   #11060
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Serious questions: could the Timberwolves literally give Standrew away right now?
The trade deadline passed, so no, not now.

This summer, we can only hope. Hopefully we get a smart, proactive GM who can unload him for some contacts that are less bad than his. I think the ship sailed a while ago on getting positive value for him.

Knowing how Taylor operates though, we probably wont get a GM like that. We'll probably either still have Layden or get someone who will "be commited to get the best out of Wiggins" or something along those lines. Taylor will probably stick his nose where it doesnt belong in making basketball decisions instead of hiring someone good at the job and letting him make good decisions.
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Old 03-03-2019, 07:24 PM   #11061
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves- Re-re-rebuilding Time

Judd is not typically someone that I would consider to be a great basketball mind, but I think he's right about this (not that its actually going to happen):

http://www.skornorth.com/wolves-2/20...-an-ultimatum/
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Old 03-03-2019, 08:09 PM   #11062
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Judd is not typically someone that I would consider to be a great basketball mind, but I think he's right about this (not that its actually going to happen):

http://www.skornorth.com/wolves-2/20...-an-ultimatum/
Too bad Ryan Saunders isnít a more establish coach with some history of winning that would cause glen to actually think Twice if an ultimatum like this was made
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Old 03-03-2019, 10:26 PM   #11063
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Too bad Ryan Saunders isnít a more establish coach with some history of winning that would cause glen to actually think Twice if an ultimatum like this was made
yeah, I doubt he has the balls to do it. But he does have a little clout because Taylor loves to hire people he's familiar with and also he loved Flip.
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Old 03-04-2019, 03:15 PM   #11064
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves- Re-re-rebuilding Time

I dunno, Glen has recently hired Thibs, Layden, and Kahn to run the franchise. Those were not country club members and all 3 suck ass. My guess is we stick with someone familiar. I'd really like it to be Ryan but we're sucking ass right now so i'm not sure he makes it.

Everyone on the team sucks, except KAT who is awesome and Rose who is legit good (i've been a hater too).
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Old 03-04-2019, 05:28 PM   #11065
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Rose's putrid defense, along with the fact that he has crashed and burned the past couple months at shooting 3s (by my count, he's 2/31 at 3s since Jan. 15), has made him a net negative player again. He's way worse defensively than Wiggins.

Since 12/30, Rose has missed 13 of 28 games. In the games he has played since 12/30, his TS% is only 51% & his eFG% is only 47%. His usage is 29.4% (Towns is not getting touches because of him). The one seemingly bright spot is that his offensive rating is 111, but when you see that his defensive rating is 120, that more than negates the offensive rating. Rose is a bad player and also a bad human being.


During each of Karl-Anthony Townsí last 10 games, he has attempted more than 10 FGs and converted greater than 50% of them.

Thatís the longest such streak in the NBA this season and the longest such streak in Timberwolves history.

Andrew Wiggins has only done that nine times this season (in 57 games).
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Old 03-04-2019, 08:33 PM   #11066
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You can’t blame any of this on Rose. At least in my eyes, He has far exceeded any expectations this year. Kat is a beast. His defense, still with room to improve, has gotten a lot better this year. Covington can be a stater on a good - great team. Tyus can be a 2nd or 3rd pg and I still have hope that okogie can turn into a Covington like player. The rest of the players legit have to go and can’t be apart of a successful team.
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Old 03-05-2019, 05:24 PM   #11067
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves- Re-re-rebuilding Time

I'm not sure on Okogie. I really like watching him and his energy is tremendous. But we're casting him in the 'defensive stopper' role and he mostly gets lit up like a xmas tree right now. That's fine as he's a rookie, but i don't think it's a given that he becomes an awesome defender. And he's incredibly not-skilled on offense.
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Old 03-06-2019, 10:04 AM   #11068
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The good thing about Okogie is that he tries very hard. Guys like that can be productive. I think his floor might be like a shorter, stronger Corey Brewer, which isnt terrible - Brewer still can be a pest for other teams to play against. Hopefully Okogie can turn into something better than that.

We own OKC. That was a fun game last night. Its too bad we have about zero chance of meeting them in the playoffs. It could have been a fun series.
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Old 03-06-2019, 07:27 PM   #11069
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Okogie hopefully can be a prime Tony Allen esque player
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Old 03-07-2019, 09:08 AM   #11070
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At this point we have to tank for a better shot at Zion right? Season's over anyway. We can easily pass 4-6 teams (7 if Memphis) if we lose most of the rest of our games. 9% chance if get to 6th worst, 7.5% at 7th.
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Old 03-07-2019, 12:27 PM   #11071
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Re: Minnesota Timberwolves- Re-re-rebuilding Time

Other than Charlotte and Orlando, what teams with worse records than the Wolves won't also be tanking? Hard to pass that many teams since everyone else would be phoning it in too
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Old 03-07-2019, 12:43 PM   #11072
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I don't remember whose theory this is, but I subscribe to it, even applied to the NBA.

Late-season success is a better predictor of future season success than late-season failure, even when accounting for improved draft equity.

So the best way to finish out the season would be for all the guys who are under team control for awhile: Wiggins, Dieng, Covington, Okogie and especially Towns, to play great, even if that moves them down a couple of slots in the draft.

Also, I think tanking is lame and permanently makes everyone involved less competitive (psychologically). You can't allow yourself to give up on a single defensive possession or rebound, much less a whole game.
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Old 03-07-2019, 01:40 PM   #11073
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Dieng has been out of the rotation for a while. He does look a little bit skinnier now but still sucked ass.
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Old 03-07-2019, 02:08 PM   #11074
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Dieng has been out of the rotation for a while. He does look a little bit skinnier now but still sucked ass.
I'm not saying anyone should expect any of those players to improve. Just that if they did, it would have a net positive impact on projections for the Wolves' future success even after accounting for the negative draft lottery impact.

Like, the Wolves' 2019/20 projection is going to be higher if KAT continues to ball out the rest of the year and they draft 10th or whatever than if he regresses back to his career average and they draft 7th.

So, to the degree that following sports can be productive, rooting for a team to tank is unproductive.
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Old 03-07-2019, 04:22 PM   #11075
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I liked watching Zach push Jimmy's **** in for the 2nd year in a row. Kind of sad that we're not involved in any way.

RoCo is a good role player on a good contract, but he's not a star. Daric, much as i try to like him, is not all that good.
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