Report: Rambis fired

Sweet! Now let's go unlocking the lockout one time. Maybe B-easy just needs to show up and pass around a big spliff to mellow both sides out. I get they'd come to an agreement much more quickly.

Confirmed by the team this time!

http://www.nba.com/timberwolves/pres...011_07_12.html



Rick Adelman plz. Or Quin Snyder. Or Jeff VanGundy.

Team Bickerstaff would be an improvement, but I hope we try for better.

Rick Adelman will be expensive unfortunately.

I think teams need to sign coaches to shorter contracts. I guess it's all what the market will bear, but basically no coach lasts 4 years in the NBA, so setting up a 4 year contract for a new coach (and coach who hasn't been head coach yet) is just silly, imo.

I'm still bummed Doug Collins isn't available. From what I understand, he's tremendous at discipline and young talent. The more I think about it, I don't think Mark Jackson would necessarily have been a bad choice, except the Warriors already have him and he may just simply make a horrible coach. It's very hard to tell with ex-players but I do think they tend to do better coaching (or development coaching) than in the front office. Most seem awful in the front office unless they're just consultants.

In the end, the right decision. Just took way too f'ing long.

Listening to Kahn's presser right now on KFAN and he actually sounds very intelligent and sharp. His explanations have imo all been pretty spot on.

Of course its been marred by Common Man and company playing the usual asanine soundbites every five second. I actually like Common but was like STFU with the bites for a second and let Kahn talk.

what about that college coach from washington st or oregon or wherever it was

Wasn't the delay due to the team negotiating with Rambis/his agent about buyout possibilities?

I hate the common man. He acts like everything he does is hilarious and I find almost none of it funny. Its just annoying.

Kahn is intelligent. He just doesn't know much about basketball.

That guy isnt leaving his current job.

That might have had something to do with it. Whether or not it did, Kahn and/or Taylor and/or his partners handled the situation very poorly.

why would rambis ever agree to any buyout when he is guaranteed 100% of his salary by not agreeing?

i suppose he might agree to it if kahn threatened to move him to the front office - which was smart of kahn if the contract allowed for it.

Tom Powers wrote a nice piece on the circumstances surrounding the Kahn/Rambis situation. IMO, it's very fair and points blame in both directions which is where it should be.

http://www.twincities.com/timberwolv...nclick_check=1

I can usually take Powers or leave him, but this is probably one of the most complete things I've seen written about what led to today's firing.

Of course, if the mainstream media ever saw it, they'd rip it to shreds because it doesn't simply write Kahn off as a goof and doofus who couldn't GM his way out of a paper bag. And it's sans cutesy smart ass comments like KAAAAHHHHHNNNNN!!! which is a big no-no obv

i keep hearing this from you and others but i haven't heard a convincing argument yet why it's true. i think he handled it well, personally.

I've literally read 1 tweet about this but what they were suggesting was that his salary might not be 100% guaranteed in the event of a lockout.

Dear God why??

My coworker/friend has tried to get me to listen to common man in the car to/from client meetings. He always says "you should love this!" and I basically want to gouge my ears out.

Fwiw I really like the Sports Guy's podcast - which Kahn was on just before the NBA draft I think. I don't love it b/c the Sports Guy is brilliant, but b/c the vibe is good, it's entertaining, the info is helpful, and he is having more and more "upper tier" type guests imo.

Kahn sounded quite articulate and reasonable. Although he kept repeating he accepts full responsibility for everything (he said this too many times) and it's unclear if he understands bball and relies on scouts a ton. Maybe the Twolves just have garbage scouts?

Screwing around for 3 months because "the time isnt right" or whatever about emotions being too high because he was unsure about firing Rambis or because he thought Rambis could change is all stupid. If it was all Kahn's decision, just pull the damn trigger.

Stuff I've heard at Canis from people who have inside sources say Taylor's partners, Moore, &/or Taylor himself could have held the process up due to money. I dont have links to any of those comments. They're buried deep inside threads I probably will never see again.

I'm not sure what really happened. Powers' article was good and sounds believable, but who knows if its completely accurate?

why? what's the downside?

Public relations - more specifically the next coach. You don't handle the firing of the outgoing coach for him; w/e he's already gone. You do it for the potential next guy.

Regardless of who is right or wrong, the way the Rambis situation was handled portrays a less than stellar image of Kahn and the Wolves brass. Minnesota isn't exactly a place the cream of the crop is clamoring over themselves to come to so situations like this just give potential top talent (in any arena - players, coaches, etc) another reason to think Kahn and co. are a bunch of fools who don't know what they are doing.

Whether or not that's true is irrelevant - perception is reality. Had Kahn just let Rambis go 'humanely' at the end of the season, it would have portrayed a much more positive image of what working for the Wolves is like than what happened.

I can legitimately see a top-tier FA coach like Adelman looking at that situation and imagining himself in it. Thus, it may make him think twice about answering Kahn's calls to interview.

maybe. i also think it's possible that a coach could see kahn's point re: rambis. but you're probably right that that isn't universally true.

Yeah. I can see a coach thinking "I may have to spend 3 months wondering if I'll have to do anything for my millions or if I'll just get them for free. Screw that!"

Also, it's funny how guys like Adelman get canned and are considered bums but then after a couple of years without a job they become "top-tier FA coaches".

Adelman was never a bum. He just had Chris Webber as his best player. And the Mike Bibby show only lasted a couple of years.

He's seemed to do well at every team he's coached (at least offensively).

But yeah, after 2-4 years every top tier coach not Jackson, Sloan, or Popovich ends up getting canned and the team and media has to point to all the things they did wrong, rather than right. Plus, it seems after a couple of years the players need a change - I think that's what really drives all the coach firings. Players just get tired of listening to the same guy if there haven't been rangz yet.

this^

Plus we lost out on a very legitimate candidate - D Casey, who got a job somewhere else while we were ****ing around. Papa Glen had been texting him during the finals and always liked him. The only reason he got fired from here in the 1st place is because he was too hard on that knucklehead Ricky Davis. That pissed of KG and KG basically got him fired. Casey will be a very good NBA head coach imo, and he would have worked here.

So...how about those Lynx? I guess that's what happens when the worst team actually gets the first pick. I'm assuming there is a lottery in the WNBA, I've never watched it

I assume that means the Lynx are in first?

lol...yeah I saw it in the Strib