Any chance OKC is in love with Williams would trade Harden for the #2?

Since we've waited this long I think we're keeping Rambis. Interesting bit on the Cavs saying they have a good trading piece in Sessions because he was basically their best player last season.

I think we might be able to get more than Harden for the #2.

Yeah, Sessions is a decent player. Its funny how his PER was good the year before he was here and the year after he left here & it was awful the year he was here.

Wouldn't you trade Harden for the #2 in a second? Statistcly SG was worse than PG last season for us. We fill a much bigger need, and get a player that is a little more proven and probably about the same age.

The ESPN article mentioned how Sessions was such a better fit for the Cavs as they ran a lot of pick 'n roll and he had to free lance with the Wolves.

Of course not. With the #2 overall draft pick you hope to do better than a backup 12ppg/3rpg guy. Like, hopefully an all-star.

He is on one of the best teams in the NBA, with 2 superstars and 21 years old. I think he has much better days ahead of him.

Here's some interesting stuff on the Rambis situation:

http://www.canishoopus.com/2011/5/21...ut-negotiation

Stop N Pop comments in the thread:

I have multiple and conflicting tips

My best guess is that Kahn doesn’t have the authority to fire Rambis and that Moor has put out feelers to see who would be willing to coach this squad. I have no idea if these feelers are serious or if they have netted any possible candidates. My sense is that Rambis isn’t going to budge an inch on a buyout (he shouldn’t) and that this, with the CBA uncertainty, could mean that he’s back next year. I don’t think any of the assistants have been told what the deal is yet. Taylor doesn’t want to pay multiple coaches again. I could definitely see JB being the only viable internal candidate, but I haven’t heard anything about that. 1 thing I’ve heard is that nobody wants to coach for Kahn…for reasons doing with him probably not being around more than a year and that he threw his coach under the bus before the last game of the year.

If they do get a new coach, he will be on the very, very, very cheap. Maybe a D-League guy or someone internally who wouldn’t otherwise get a shot (see JB).



As someone else commented in that thread, I'd take JB 100 times out of 100 over Rambis.

Still, Kevin Durant was a #2 pick. That's what we need. A savior.

I agree. If Oden and Durant were available, I'd say under no circumstance should we trade the pick, but those type of players aren't in the draft.

From what I've heard there rate to be 0 superstars in this draft and maybe only a couple of allstars down the line. It seems everyone is "pretty good."

If the Wolves can package the pick with a couple other pieces for a near allstar or superstar (that would require Kevin Love though ldo) then I think they have to do it. And get a different offense. No way Ricky Rubio in the triangle makes any @#$@#$ sense.

the only time i really think it is correct to take a worse player from a talent perspective is when you are a fringe contender, and trading for or drafting a need outweighs the overall value.

I am not happy with the prospect of getting williams because frankly he doesnt fit our team and he will not get much PT if he is here. However, I am excited about the added talent he would provide, and the added ability to trade more pieces for actual pieces we would need that he could also provide.

I am hoping kahn is able to trade out of the 2 pick, drop down and take either kanter or biyombo, but if he cannot, i think it would be a mistake to draft anyone else besides williams. i think he's the #2 player in this draft.

Also, his size isn't really an issue at the 4. he measures out at about average there.

i agree with this, nice post.

Would Beasley + Flynn get us our 2012 pick from the Clips?

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I'm pretty sure they'd laugh at that offer.

I think Flynn is the type of player who you throw into a multi-player deal to make the salaries work out. I think his value beyond that is close to zero.

Beasley has value, but probably not enough to get a high lotto pick in an expected to be good draft.

Clippergeddon is coming.

itd be so hilarious if the wolves traded for their own pick back and the clippers made it top-3 protected

i think i mentioned this itt, but there was a rumor that indiana was willing to give up their # 10 pick last year for flynn. obv dont know if it's true, but anyway, i doubt flynn is worth anything and they should have jumped on that offer if it was real.

right now he's basically telfair from like 2-3 years ago, imo.

Flynn has as much trade value now as Telfair did 2-3 years ago, but his value on the court is hugely negative, where at least Telfair can play with a little competency.

Yes, the rumor is that Kahn basically laughed at Indiana & hung up on them like they were insulting him by offering the #10 for Flynn - he was bragging about that (brilliant!). If that's true, he should be fired for that alone, not that there arent plenty of other reasons to fire him.

From Chad Ford's latest Mock Draft:

I guess I was a little surprised to see the bolded portion.

You're surprised Love wants to get out of this mess?

No. I'm surprised that they said that information w/o him publicly saying he wants out. Maybe I missed it, did Love at some time say he wanted out?

I don't think he'd do it publicly. But I think it's not a far reach to assume he'd welcome a trade. I didn't really want to bring it up in this thread to be too much of a killjoy as he's been the 1 bright spot. Buuuut, unless Rubio is as much or more than promised, I don't really see how the Twolves keep Love past his rookie contract. We'll see though, maybe the new CBA will make it easier for small market teams.

Also, and I kinda hate to say this too, but I'm not sure Love's trade value gets higher than *right now*. And due to the new CBA there could be a lot of teams willing to give up borderline superstars or even kind of superstars for him.

I remember this from earlier in the season, but that is about it.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...oklahoma-city/

whispers of Ben Gordon for the #2 a brewin

yeah, i was comparing flynn now to telfair of like 3 years ago, where basically he was a highly touted draft pick that had 0 production and was a large negative for his team.

flynn is still young enough to figure things out i guess, but hoping for anything of value from him in a trade is not realistic imo.

i dont think he has said anything in the media, but he's part of an awful team where the coach randomly benches him from time to time.

Rambis needs to leave and the team needs to show some major improvements if they want to have a chance at keeping love, imo

trading love now might be good depending on what they could get for him. for instance, i would do it for the #1 overall.