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04-01-2013 , 10:47 PM
Top 30 FAs according to some guy on ESPN has Pek #7.

Still, the going rate for centers has been set, and with Brook Lopez and Roy Hibbert making about $15 million per year and JaVale McGee making $10 million per year, Pekovic will have strong leverage going into negotiation. A five-year, $55 million deal makes sense for both sides; Minnesota locks up a productive young center, and Pekovic nets a nice deal on par with his peers.
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04-01-2013 , 10:59 PM
yeah, if we can get him for 5/55m, we should definitely do that. Unfortunately, there are people in the decision making process who don't agree with that. I'm pessimistic based on things I've read from people who say they have sources. I hope they are wrong.
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04-01-2013 , 11:16 PM
We did what we were supposed to do tonight - beat up on a short handed team. It felt kind of good to be on the other end of a game like that for a change. There should be no whining from Boston fans about this one, considering the fact the Wolves have played most of the season without their best player and they had a long stretch of games with 8 - 9 players available to play. PEK manhandled everyone who tried to guard him & they were all in foul trouble all night. Then they doubled teamed him and that opened things up for the rest of the team. AK, Ricky, Cunningham & Barea all played well. It was nice to see a game without Steamer playing at all - Boston had basically no healthy bigs, so we went with small lineups + PEK most of the game.

Despite all their injuries, there were a lot of Boston fans in the crowd tonight. Most were pretty subdued, but we had a loud drunk asshat with three brat kids a couple rows in front of us. The kids were completely out of control - two of them were holding plastic bags over each others faces repeatedly, then hitting each other with bags of cotton candy while the drunk dad was ignoring them & yelling stupid **** about the game. Then the other kid kept sitting up on the top of the seat and was slapping the **** out of her brother, again while the dad ignored it. The dad kept getting up for more beer throughout the game, leaving the brats to themselves. Some people should not be allowed to have kids. My daughter was probably 15 - 20 feet away from him and she said she could smell his breath from where she was sitting. What a pig. Near the end of the game he got in a shouting match with a Wolves fan about something trivial (actually it was drunk guy shouting while the Wolves fan talked). After a few minutes of that, the Wolves fan left and the drunk guy kept yelling at him.
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04-02-2013 , 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Halstad
Top 30 FAs according to some guy on ESPN has Pek #7.

Still, the going rate for centers has been set, and with Brook Lopez and Roy Hibbert making about $15 million per year and JaVale McGee making $10 million per year, Pekovic will have strong leverage going into negotiation. A five-year, $55 million deal makes sense for both sides; Minnesota locks up a productive young center, and Pekovic nets a nice deal on par with his peers.
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Originally Posted by cha59
yeah, if we can get him for 5/55m, we should definitely do that. Unfortunately, there are people in the decision making process who don't agree with that. I'm pessimistic based on things I've read from people who say they have sources. I hope they are wrong.
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@Charley_Walters
To-be restricted free agent Timberwolf Nikola Pekovic says he wants “100 percent” to remain in Minnesota.
We know PEK likes it here at least. We'll see what happens if/when some other team offers him more $$ than the Wolves will.
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04-02-2013 , 10:59 AM

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"You could see it in some of their guys' faces. ... They didn't want any part of Pek," Wolves guard J.J. Barea said. "They started complaining. I wouldn't want to be in that position either, trying to bang with him all night."
http://www.twincities.com/timberwolv...tics-whos-boss
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04-02-2013 , 12:36 PM
Pek shouldn't sign for less than $15M a year.
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04-02-2013 , 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ajmargarine
Pek shouldn't sign for less than $15M a year.
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04-02-2013 , 02:51 PM
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I'd like to bring attention to a recent comment made by Madison Dan, as it pretty much mirrors the off-season wish list post I have in the draft box:
1. Re-sign Pek.
2. Trade Barea or Ridnour (preferably Barea because of contract length) and Williams. I’d trade them both for as little as future picks, and not particularly good ones. I don’t want to pay to make them go away. I also don’t want a bad contract back. If they can fetch better than that, it’s all gravy to me.
3. Re-sign Bud, but don’t pay too much (again, I’m thinking Danny Green money is realistic, and perhaps generous).
4. Sign Korver, Dunleavy, or someone else who can shoot.
5. Convince Adelman to stay / hope his wife is healthy.
6. Convince Kirilenko to play out his contract (this might be wishful thinking).
7. Don’t suck at the draft (this could be a problem as well). Get a wing early. Get a center at 25-ish. Get Kazemi in the second round.
8. Keep Johnson and Gelabale unless a better use of the roster spot comes up. They’re somewhat competent and as cheap as it gets.
9. Only keep Stiemsma as a last resort. He doesn’t need to go, but I won’t miss him if he’s gone.
http://www.canishoopus.com/2013/4/2/...here-theyre-at

Right now I agree with that whole list ^.

If you dont read that whole article, at least scroll down to the "Wolves Salary Wish List" grid. That puts the whole list from above into long term perspective, and the whole thing makes a lot of sense to me.
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04-02-2013 , 02:55 PM
1/3/5/6 are pretty much the only ones there I deeply care about.
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04-02-2013 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by minnesotasam
1/3/5/6 are pretty much the only ones there I deeply care about.
Those are most important, but if we don't do 2, we're could have cap issues with everything else. That could hinder all of there things.

4 might seem a little less important, but it would solve a problem that should have been solved last off season instead of ****ing around with a guy who has no cartilage in his knees. More assist receptacles for Rubio would be a very good thing. We have an excellent chance right now to set an all time record for team 3 point shooting percentage futility in a season. With the passers we have on this team, this should not happen. Bud is a little better than avg at career 3 pt %. Those guys he mentions are very good at 3 pt shooting. We need more of that.

7 is important so we don't suck in the future. We need to draft productive "glue" players. San Antonio does this probably better than anyone.

8 & 9 are way less important.
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04-03-2013 , 11:56 PM
Anyone watch the game tonight? PEK was beasting it up again. Sometimes +/- isnt necessarily indicative of how well players are playing, but PEK was +22 and Steamer was -15 tonight. The dropoff when PEK sat down was drastic. 27 pts on 11/14. If Hibbert & Lopez are worth $15 mil, PEK certainly is - I just hope no other team offers him that much.

Rubio was unreal. If he can shoot well with any consistency, he might wind up being the best PG in the league as Jim P suggests. 19/12/4 with 8 steals & 5-6 from 3 pt range.

Nice win tonight on the road vs a *cough* playoff team. Must be nice to play in the Eastern Conference.
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04-04-2013 , 02:32 AM
@WolvesRadio
The #twolves now have more wins this April (2-0) than in their previous 3 Aprils combined (1-26). #nba #wolves
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04-04-2013 , 02:35 AM
Also a buddy was watching the pregame today and he said prior to the game Adelman was tied for 2nd for the most wins in Twolves history at 53.
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04-04-2013 , 02:36 AM
Can we start throwing some games plz
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04-04-2013 , 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Halstad
@WolvesRadio
The #twolves now have more wins this April (2-0) than in their previous 3 Aprils combined (1-26). #nba #wolves


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Originally Posted by Halstad
Also a buddy was watching the pregame today and he said prior to the game Adelman was tied for 2nd for the most wins in Twolves history at 53.


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Can we start throwing some games plz
See above. How has that worked out for us in the past? **** losing. I hope we win all the rest of the games.
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04-04-2013 , 08:06 PM
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04-04-2013 , 08:30 PM
Ricky's TOs strike me as a real problem.
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04-04-2013 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by minnesotasam
Ricky's TOs strike me as a real problem.
Maybe. If he's stealing it this much though it's all good.

IMO #5 is most important on that list. Then #1.
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04-04-2013 , 11:05 PM
I dunno man, I mean obviously he's a huge positive and an excellent player but is he a full max guy if he's a terrible shooting pg with turnover issues? I think I can stomach one or the other but I really worry about both. I love the kid, but it's a real question.
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04-04-2013 , 11:54 PM
Big picture:

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/steals

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...3/seasontype/2

2nd in the league in steals and rising. 1st in steals per minute. 8th in assists and rising. 4th in assists per minute. Most total assists in the NBA since the all star break (since he's been near 100% healthy). 2.42 assists per TO. 0.94 steals per TO.

Could his TOs be a little lower? yeah. Is it a huge problem? Let all that^ sink in before you answer that question. I'm not too concerned.
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04-05-2013 , 12:19 AM
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Originally Posted by cha59
Big picture:

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/steals

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/pl...3/seasontype/2

2nd in the league in steals and rising. 1st in steals per minute. 8th in assists and rising. 4th in assists per minute. Most total assists in the NBA since the all star break (since he's been near 100% healthy). 2.42 assists per TO. 0.94 steals per TO.

Could his TOs be a little lower? yeah. Is it a huge problem? Let all that^ sink in before you answer that question. I'm not too concerned.
nit picking, but haven't we played more games than anyone since the AS break?
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04-05-2013 , 01:28 AM
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no chance alexei isnt the least respected player ITL by the refs
Never seen anything like it. Hopefully it's cuz he's a rookie and is better next year.

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@WolvesRadio
The #twolves now have more wins this April (2-0) than in their previous 3 Aprils combined (1-26). #nba #wolves
Amazing.
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04-05-2013 , 04:40 AM
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Could his TOs be a little lower? yeah. Is it a huge problem?
C'mon, that's a false dichotomy. There's a huge middle ground between those questions (including my initial post).
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04-05-2013 , 06:55 AM
Ricky is awesome and anyone who doesn't think so is a meanie.

I feel pretty good about our PG. It's literally every other position i worry about.
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04-05-2013 , 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Halstad
nit picking, but haven't we played more games than anyone since the AS break?
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C'mon, that's a false dichotomy. There's a huge middle ground between those questions (including my initial post).
ok. Shooting and turnovers are things he can improve on. The shooting is especially poor.

His legs are very weak. I think he ought to hit the gym and the buffet tables a lot this summer, squat heavy 3X a week & eat constantly. If he gets his legs stronger, that should help with the range on his shot and it should also help him finish at the rim better.

I think he's super smart and will learn to have fewer TOs as he gets more experience. He's only played the equivalent of about one full NBA season healthy, maybe even less, so far in his career.

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Ricky is awesome and anyone who doesn't think so is a meanie.
+1

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I feel pretty good about our PG. It's literally every other position i worry about.
PF is elite when Love is healthy. C is damn good if we keep PEK, but yeah, I'm worried about that too.
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