yeah, fire Taylor!

It does stem from the top. We have a ****ty president (Taylor's son in law) too. Taylor ****ed around before getting rid of McFale, then ****ed around with legitimate GM candidates before settling for Kahn, who was less qualified, but cheaper than the rest.

Who knows if Kahn's hands are tied as far as making other moves or not. Either way, we need a GM with a good basketball mind to have full authority to make decisions.


yeah, willie, I thought you meant the part about Irving - obviously now.

Now that I think of it, I should start finding quotes from stop n pop about how big of an idiot Kahn is. snp basically foresaw how ****ty the Wolves would be this year, and was shedding light on how Kahn makes decisions and how bad his process is, for a long time. I didnt want to believe him at first, but its all been coming true. He has some good sources on the inside who have fed him good info about Kahn.

David Thorpe

huh? i thought biyombo was projected to be a late 1st rounder.

edit: i just watched a youtube of the nike hoops summit and biyombo is pretty impressive. if he's really 18 he appears to be a great prospect. i don't know about #1 but he looks good.

trade rubio for him imo

he's only 6'9" so I'm not sure why he thinks he can play C

he's a center. he's extremely long and strong

he's got one of the longest wingspans in the DE database(7'5-7'7 iirc). Plus he's not a twig, so he could bang a little inside now.

In order i'd want:

1. Irving- Most talented player on the board and fills a need. Who knows if Rubio is coming over, or if he is any good.

2. Biyombo- Apparently there is proof that he is no older than 20. If that's the case I take him here. He fills another need and would be a great pairing next to love(imo)

3. Derrick Williams- Kind of redundant. we already have some decent 4s, but he's the BPA if the other two are taken. I'd consider Valuncias as well for his size, but i'd lean D-Will here.

Thorpe loses credibility with me when he talks like Flynn might be a useful contributor. Considering Biyombo with the 1st pick (if we get it) is absurd imo. Anything after the #1, I dunno - it sounds like there's a lot of talent there, but its really hard to say if he'll be good or not because there isnt much info to go on.

snp weighted pg ratings & discussion for the 2011 class:

http://www.canishoopus.com/2011/4/21...tion#storyjump

He was always on Brewer's nuts too, but I can remember a piece he wrote and mentioned that statisticly Flynn was the worst PG in the league.

Thorpe said that about Flynn? I wonder why he says that and then assumes Flynn can be an NBA player?

I see no redeeming qualities in Flynn as a basketball player. The worst PG in the league statistically sounds about right, and he massively fails the eyeball test too. He just makes dumb plays all the time. He doesn't get it. He's always trying to do something that looks cool and has no interest in making the best play. His BBIQ is ~ a rock imo. I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with his supposed injury issues. I'm sure he's a really nice guy though.

To think we could have had the #10 pick in last year's draft for him....and of course we should have had Curry, or Lawson instead of him in the first place.

Now that his trade value has sunk to its lowest yet, maybe we'll unload him for a bag of cow manure or something. That would be better than keeping him imo.

Hollinger on Bismack Biyombo -

i dunno. what about mutombo, ben wallace, rodman etc. you don't have to be a great scorer to be a great player

you dont have to be a great scorer, but being one makes you a lot more valuable.

If his upside is Ben Wallace for example (one I've heard suggested), and he realizes his upside, that'd be pretty good. But if his upside is KG or Hakeem (others I've heard suggested), that's a whole lot better.

None of it matters if he's the next Thabeet or Olowokandi or something.

No one really knows for sure, which is why he's somewhat risky to take so high.

ok but there's no such thing as a sure thing at #4 (or even #2 in this draft) anyway.

yeah I know....

I just read through this and watched the attached highlights. http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/...-Biyombo-5902/
There's really good analysis and highlights in that link.

I'm a fan of this Biyombo guy now. No, we should not even consider taking him with the #1 if we get it. Irving is too good to pass on. I think Williams should go #2 if we get that pick. He'll likely be like a Beasley without the knucklehead tendencies.

If we get #3 we should start thinking about Biyombo imo. He seems to have that fire that the best players in the NBA have - he seems to play all out all the time and wants to be the best & win. The defense he plays could be awesome and offensively, he plays like Darko should - going hard & aggressive at the hole whenever he gets the ball close to the basket.

Exactly my thoughts in bold.

More Biyombo highlights & commentary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_SB-...layer_embedded

williams is obv the standard #2 pick but i'd actually rather have biyombo.

i mean what is beasley's future? does he have trade value?

say they get #4 and the draft goes irving, williams, biyombo. who are you taking then? kemba? kanter?

I dont have a strong opinion if we get #4 and those 3 are gone. Maybe Kemba, I'm not sure.

Beasley could have a little better trade value right now than what we paid for him. His future could be a 6th man for us, or possibly a stud, high scoring hybrid small/power forward if we get a coach who can get him to play defense and play consistently. I dont know if that's possible or not. He certainly has talent. I'd like to see someone like Jerry Sloan take over and get on his ass to put in some effort on D. It might not end well, but it could be just what Beasley needs.

I understand what you are saying, but Jerry Sloan coached teams have never been known for their defense.

I want Adelman as a head coach in the worst way.

I'd take Kanter, we're lacking at the 5 pretty badly, and we have one of the worst defensive teams itl.

Kemba would provide us with a good scoring option, but he'd probably be another liability defensively(which we have enough of already imo).

We're lacking everything except PF.

Kanter might be a good pick there. Maybe Alec Burks could be too.

I hope we dont wind up with #4. Kahn will butcher it if we do imo.

I'd be surprised if the Wolves get #4 and BB isn't there.

note: I probably won't learn how to spell his name unless we draft him.

I wouldnt be surprised if Kahn passed on Biyombo if he is there at 4

nor would i be surprised if any other GM passed on him there. just because we all like him at 3 doesn't mean that's the professional consensus.