My take is this: AP worked more aggressively to get better/stronger faster than Rubio has. I think AP went a little beyond what was suggested to him & worked harder. Rubio is doing everything according to what the trainers tell him and is being more cautious.

Most good trainers are getting more aggressive sooner after surgeries than in the past because its now known that when you rest too long after surgeries, more scar tissue builds up and muscle atrophy sets in, making recovery far more difficult. Getting moving sooner makes it heal faster.

And AP is obviously a beast too.

Pretty good article about stuff that Glen Taylor said - this has not been reported elsewhere as far as I know:

Timberwolves’ candid Glen Taylor offers glimpse inside front office
By Britt Robson | 10/01/12

Peterson in an interview in '07:

That has to help.

Cha - cool article, wanted even more after I was done reading, but any bit is helpful.

Kahn more and more just sounds like a bit of a weird dude who really needs help in determining who to go after. But the actual nuts & bolts (logistics) of GMing he may actually be pretty good at.

yeah, I cant quite do as much as he can, but I can confirm that squatting heavy weight properly/having super strong legs is very good for the knees.

Well, he's good at some parts of it and terrible at others. With the support staff we have right now, it appears he can be functional. Kahn was a complete disaster before Team Adelman came aboard.

i've heard you say that many times, but i haven't seen the same thing. i think you're too results oriented. certainly, kahn is a risk taker, and many of his risks in his first two years failed, but i actually think his willingness to gamble and not worry about what the media says is a pretty strong positive.

you have to at least give him credit for rubio. he appears to have handled that to perfection - and i don't think it was something obvious that everyone would have done.

my favorite trait of his is that he's willing to admit failure and cut his losses when he's wrong. flynn was his guy - but he (correctly) gave up on him pretty quickly. compare that to, for instance, chilly and tarvaris.

at the very least, he keeps the wheels turning until something works

Yeah, team Rambis was a huge disaster, lol.

Willie - he gave up on Flynn quickly? I'd say he gave up on him a year too late at least....probably could have gotten something for him if they had a decent coach who said "ummm, this guy can't play" - same with Wes Johnson.

Kahn deserves all the credit for making the trade to get the pick we used on Rubio. McHale would have never made that trade.

Kahn deserves all the blame for the Flynn pick, and for the Wes pick and as Yugo correctly states, he took too long before giving up on them.

As recently as ~February last year, he planted the seed in Taylor's head that all Wes needed was some coaching to get better production from him. It wasn't until the end of the season when Adelman said, "I want these guys gone" that the Wes experiment ended, and we had to give up an asset just for someone to agree to take on his contract.

At least he is doing what Adelman is telling him to do now. He deserves credit for that, and for getting Adelman here.

It is possible he was just doing what Rambis told him to do with all those botched moves prior to that (remember though, the Flynn pick was prior to Rambis coming aboard). But, he hired that worthless piece of ****.

The Flynn & Wes picks are both historically bad on their own. Not dumping them while either still had value compounded the problems.

Three things Kahn has done right - Rubio, Adelman, and doing what Adelman says.

Things Kahn has done wrong - basically everything else. (There have been several slightly good to neutral to bad moves - nothing else super important that has been good imo).

Remember, as of the end of last year, we had three very good players on the team. Two of those guys are here because of McHale (Love & PEK). The rest of the good players we have here now (and the pile of crap we just got rid of that Kahn brought here) are primarily due to Adelman's suggestions.

wat

How does he not get credit for getting the Russkies, especially after that AK47 presser included Andrei specifically citing Kahn's persistence as a reason he came, because he felt "wanted"?

Adelman told him to get AK.

I dont know who is responsible for Shved. That could be a very good one, but it remains to be seen, and I'm not sure who's idea it was.

Shved was prolly AK's idea .

Love says "get me some talent idiots."

Adelman says "yeah Kahn, what he said, AK-47 looks good since we whiffed on Batum - also throw in Buddinger, I like that dude"

Kahn says "hey Roy, I remember you from Portland, want to hang out here in case you're all healed?" and then "Ak-47, Rubio could be your PG, not Deron Williams!!! Check that **** out."

AK-47 says "I want Shved as my pg then too ldo"

Kahn "wat?"

AK-47 "just watch Olympics, you will see the Shved"

We were interested in Shved before AK47 I think, and we already had Bud before we pursued Batum, but nice story

Story is solid b/c I made it up on the spot.

Also, apparently somewhere in that time Pek jumped into the conversation with "PEK.....SMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASH". But everyone just assumed he was threatening Kahn if he brought Anthony Randolph back.

In other news, B Roy has been going all out, practiced for ~4 hours two days ago, kept going after the coaches tried to hold him back, and said his knees felt great yesterday. Adelman has been making comments about how he is a very good player and how smart he is. He does everything well, and is an elite scorer, even if he's lost a little of his hop.

I was trying not to be overly optimistic about a guy who has basically no knee cartilage, but hearing the news about him makes it hard not to be optimistic. If that guy can give us significant minutes, we are going to be one of the best teams in the league.

Portland's training/medical staff really ****ed up several guys' knees. There's a Grantland article about it somewhere - I'll see if I can find the link later.



ESPN did some piece on Insider the other day that named 12 teams with a chance to knock out Miami - the Wolves are one.

Training camp continues: Iron sharpens iron
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By Oceanary on Oct 4, 10:27p

good stuff - I cant wait to see this team play

2013 Predictions: Summary and Playoffs
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By vjl110 on Oct 6, 9:26a


Seems plausible.

Are any preseason games on TV anywhere? A cursory check shows nada.

If I buy a subscription to League Pass Broadband does anyone know if the game will be on there tonight?

I know nothing about league pass broadband, but I doubt it. I mean the game isn't at an nba site, it's in fargo.

Yea, looks like it isn't on anywhere not even radio.

Game is on(line). Check your local tributary.

Fargodome nice for football, not so much for basketball.

AK47 is a beast.

damn, was in on in the Twin Cities?? - I missed it

Scrolled through the Canis game thread - it sounds very encouraging: http://www.canishoopus.com/2012/10/1...minute-preview

My cliffs on the comments on Canis + looking at the box score:

- AK is awesome despite putting up somewhat weak looking numbers. He just does things that help the team all the time.

- PEK is a beast and ate Hibbert for lunch.

- Roy, Budinger, Shved, Steamer & Cunningham all are a huge improvement over the guys they replaced. AK is so big of an improvement over Wes, its ridiculous.

- The caged lion did some good things and some bad things - jury is out. He did get twice as many minutes as Cunningham, which is a mild surprise for me. I wonder if that will continue when the season starts - if it does, its probably a good sign, meaning the lion will have improved a lot.

I cant wait to see this team play!!