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08-25-2011 , 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by cash mahne
If Prince isnt the DH in all 3 road games of the WS, RR needs to be fired.
who you got playing first?

first off, we are getting ahead of ourselves. secondly, theres absolutely no way anyone else starts at 1b.
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08-25-2011 , 06:13 PM
anyone is better defensively than Prince at first, even McGehee would be an upgrade there...

Prince is so bad at defense. I can't possibly talk bad about his bat, but I am not going to miss his defense at all after this season...

Also, yes we are way ahead of ourselves here... I am just saying from the post before mine about DH's
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08-25-2011 , 07:44 PM
if the brewers make the world series, RR can bat yuni leadoff for all i care.

Spoiler:
not really, but you know
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08-25-2011 , 07:49 PM
i understand... I am just saying Prince is a terrible Fielder...

Spoiler:
pun absolutely intended
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08-26-2011 , 11:44 AM
Have any NL teams that made the WS w/ a bad 1B done that in the past?
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08-26-2011 , 11:45 AM
Speaking of defense, I want to mention that I'm oddly impressed with McGehee's defense at 3B this year. For a short and chubby third baseman he really isn't as bad as he should be. I think he may even be a plus defender this year!
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08-26-2011 , 11:56 AM
too bad he swings a wet noodle at the plate.
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08-26-2011 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cash mahne
Prince is so bad at defense. I can't possibly talk bad about his bat, but I am not going to miss his defense at all after this season...
The other thing I won't miss is his tendency to go swing-crazy in high leverage situations. That at-bat during the Mets comeback game was a good example. He wasn't getting anything close to a strike and he was trying to hammer everything. He wound up being the hero because he ended up grounding one between the 1b and 2b, but the AB itself was terrible. He seems to do this a lot in big, late-inning situations and some other random times, where he's swinging at balls way off the plate or nearly over his head. That's the frustrating thing about him, since I feel like he could be even better than he is now, he could take even many more walks (how many pitchers are terrified to throw him more than one strike in an AB?). I don't even think he has particularly great plate discipline, anyone who gets pitched that way is going to walk a lot. I dunno, just something I noticed.
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08-26-2011 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bad Beat Bill
Speaking of defense, I want to mention that I'm oddly impressed with McGehee's defense at 3B this year. For a short and chubby third baseman he really isn't as bad as he should be. I think he may even be a plus defender this year!
He has what I call fall down range.


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Originally Posted by Bad Beat Bill
The other thing I won't miss is his tendency to go swing-crazy in high leverage situations. That at-bat during the Mets comeback game was a good example. He wasn't getting anything close to a strike and he was trying to hammer everything. He wound up being the hero because he ended up grounding one between the 1b and 2b, but the AB itself was terrible. He seems to do this a lot in big, late-inning situations and some other random times, where he's swinging at balls way off the plate or nearly over his head. That's the frustrating thing about him, since I feel like he could be even better than he is now, he could take even many more walks (how many pitchers are terrified to throw him more than one strike in an AB?). I don't even think he has particularly great plate discipline, anyone who gets pitched that way is going to walk a lot. I dunno, just something I noticed.
He's been awesome in high leverage situations according to BR.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...2011&t=b#lever

Not every AB can be perfect.
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08-26-2011 , 05:37 PM
I don't know if the sample size is really big enough for that sort of thing, but I would like to see the swung at % here, maybe I am just talking about of my ass here

It just seems there are certain at-bats where he just seems to think "**** it, I'm swinging at anything even close to the zone" when he could easily take a walk
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08-29-2011 , 10:22 AM
i cant even believe what im reading itt.

his defense isnt nearly as bad as you make it to seem cash mahne, and secondly, hes one of the best hitters in the NL.
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08-29-2011 , 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by areaman
i cant even believe what im reading itt.

his defense isnt nearly as bad as you make it to seem cash mahne, and secondly, hes one of the best hitters in the NL.
I never questioned his hitting... and his defense is very bad. If the NL had AL batting rules he would be the DH
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08-29-2011 , 02:33 PM
i'm not implying that he isn't one of the best! but I feel like he could take even more walks than he already does.
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08-29-2011 , 05:38 PM
2nd in the league in obp not enough?

carreer .388 obp. on his 3rd year in a row of being over .400.

youre right tho, he could be better if he wasnt human.

Last edited by areaman; 08-29-2011 at 05:43 PM.
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08-29-2011 , 06:05 PM
Those numbers are irrelevant. BBB is saying that he thinks Fielder could still draw more walks than he does. It isn't saying he needs to walk more.
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08-29-2011 , 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cash mahne
If Prince isnt the DH in all 3 road games of the WS, RR needs to be fired.
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Originally Posted by cash mahne
anyone is better defensively than Prince at first, even McGehee would be an upgrade there...

Prince is so bad at defense. I can't possibly talk bad about his bat, but I am not going to miss his defense at all after this season...

Also, yes we are way ahead of ourselves here... I am just saying from the post before mine about DH's
It doesn't matter what he does, RR should be given a lifetime extension because he is that awesome. He is already one of the best managers in the game today and that is not easy to come by (Yost, Macha, etc...).

Also, I would much rather have Prince at 1B than McGehee. McGehee is not good at defense and I can only imagine how much worse he would be at a new position he is not familar/comfortable with. Also, our chances are pretty good at re-signing Prince. If he wants to stay, we have the money.
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08-30-2011 , 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by areaman
2nd in the league in obp not enough?

carreer .388 obp. on his 3rd year in a row of being over .400.

youre right tho, he could be better if he wasnt human.
It is quite ridiculous. Do people expect him to be RoidBonds or what?

Prince is having a massive season in the #4 spot. Our #5 hitters on the year have hit .229/.281/.345. That OPS is good for 29th out of 30.

What Prince has done with trash behind him is awesome. He leads the majors in IBB with 25 compared to 19 for Bautista. He's very likely the most pitched around MVP type hitter in baseball.

Fielder is 4th in walks overall despite having absolute trash behind him all season. I can't fault the guy for occasionally swinging at less than desirable pitches when there are men on base.

Prince deserves the NL MVP at this point, IMO.
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08-30-2011 , 09:44 AM
No, I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying he could walk even more than the ridiculous rate that he already is! Don't get me wrong here - I know he's one of the NL's best hitters regardless.

Fangraphs has McGehee as a plus defender at 3B (the first season in which he has done so). He seems to be playing better in the field as of late. I wonder if Yuni is such a bad defender that he'd make any 3B look bad.
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08-30-2011 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by areaman
2nd in the league in obp not enough?

carreer .388 obp. on his 3rd year in a row of being over .400.

youre right tho, he could be better if he wasnt human.
This.
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08-30-2011 , 04:09 PM
If I can just veer off topic a little, when Weeks and Gomez comes back what is the latter's role exactly? After how well Hairston has done, are we really going to hit Gomez against left handed pitchers again?
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08-31-2011 , 12:37 AM
I guess we'll have to see but at the very least he can pinch run. i wish they'd platoon Morgan/Gomez as they always have but put in Hairston at SS. Speaking of...

I like Roenicke in general, but making Yuni bunt in the 9th, down 1, no outs, with runners at 1st and 2nd is so borderline stupid that I can't help but dislike him for the time being. I mean, 2nd and 3rd w/ 1 out is a little better WPA-wise, but that calculation goes out the window when you're dealing with Yuni Baseball, a guy who has failed in every sac bunt situation this year, especially when you consider he's got a good shot of bunting into a double play right there, especially with Pujols charging the mound (why not just pull the bunt back there?), especially with all three runners being super slow. What's more, you got Josh Wilson and Craig Counsell on the bench, who are better defensively (in case you go into the 10th) and most definitely are better and bunting. Blame Yuni for not getting the bunt down but this is on you, Ron
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08-31-2011 , 01:29 AM
check me out boys...

my first brewers game and it came at miller park (sun 8/28 brewers/cubs). always kinda thought it would come down at minute maid park in houston. instead, i got to enjoy the greatness of tailgating, fried cheese curds, and leinenkugel's!


mid 6th sausage race (i was pulling for chorizo)


the greatest brewer who ever lived!




ah the good seats, just the way i like'em




i guess this stuff is new. i heard bob uecker say it was good for getting stains out of shirts on the saturday night broadcast driving back down from green bay. picked this up in shawano. actually pretty good stuff!




now my only hope is it's a rangers/brewers world series so i can see them live one more time this year! lets go brew crew!!!
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08-31-2011 , 09:45 AM
chorizo never wins. too big of hat.

that robinade, everytime i drink a glass i go get checked for diabetes afterwards.
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08-31-2011 , 05:58 PM
happy you enjoyed that game! I went last night... my 5th one of the year... i am 1-3 at Miller Park... which is incredible imo when the team has lost only 17 times this year at home.

I also went to Target Field for the game one loss. It was a beautiful stadium and a fun time even with the loss.

So I am 1-4 and going on the 28th vs the Pirates and if they are at home with a chance to clinch I will go to more games next month.
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09-01-2011 , 12:15 AM
yeah statistically that's an oddity. can you make it sept 23-25 vs the marlin? hehe i like your chances there. or if you can make it down to wrigley sept 19-21. you know what they say, the windy city blows!

here's another thing tho, we better stop dicking around and pick up this last game at home tomorrow night. 8.5 back is nearly insurmountable, but if we lose and it goes to 7.5 you have 3 @ st. louis next week followed by 4 with philly at home. it's not inconceivable to see the lead slim to 2.5-3.5 if we don't push the lead back up to 9.5 tomorrow night.
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