hope to run into zimmer and deezy tomorrow...5am wakeup call is gonna be rough, though i'm so excited (wifey's first time adds to it) that it'll probably be okay.

also just talked to a buddy that owed me $40 from re-upping at a home game two weekends ago and asked him if he'd roll it over and give me Illy +3 for double or nothing..

i hate myself a little, but not a lot.

He's not healthy . . . and I definitely don't take for granted that he'll stay through his senior year . . . now RR is trying to get Devin a medical redshirt with a phantom back injury, that he supposedly hurt before getting back-to-back Barwis Workout Warrior awards . . . this means we are stuck with Tate to run the offense when Denard get banged up, and the play calling changes when he's in there. I'd at least liked to have seen them stick with Devin because he had the ability to stretch the field with a good deep ball (in favor of Tate).

I give RR credit for defusing Tate transfer rumors, but if we are going to continue to sit Devin out in hopes of getting him that sacred medical redshirt . . . it takes away another weapon we could use to win football games.

Wait, wut? If you think Devin is better than Tate right now you are delusional. Seriously. Devin still does stupid **** like bouncing outside for a 'big play' that won't happen instead of taking the 7 yards in front of him. Also, his mechanics clearly need more work.

Tate knows the offense really ****ing well and has done great when he's gone in. Devin will be better than him, but he isn't this year.

Your assertion that Denard isn't healthy is a cool story bro as well.

I leave for one night and some troll with 125 posts shows up?

Who registered 4 years ago....

crazy.

CAN THE GAME ****ING START ALREADY?

RR said something on Monday about Devin being ready if he needs him so I don't think a medical redshirt is going to happen. I think that was just rumor mongering by people hoping Devin could somehow get an extra year.

I'm fairly certain you can get redshirts in your later years. Don't remember the exact rule though.

You definitely can. I was just referring to this year.

Gardner is clearly another situation absolutly botched by richrod. Good thing this loss will be over by 3:30 though, right in time for the WSOP FT live stream.

Not only have we gone over this before, and you changed your mind after learning you can get redshirts after your freshman year....

But let's skip over all that and just assume that we'll only get one year of Gardner. That means your simultaneously sh**ting on RR for short term results and for not holding out a player who might have been better for the long term.

You're a ****ing piece of work, GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAARRRRRRR

thanks ike. who do you think makes it to HU play tomorrow?

I say it'll be Dolan/Choeng

I really never have cared much about the wsop me.

why not, it's amazing.

Meh, I just don't care. I think it's mostly because I find watching other people play poker extremely boring. Hell, I find playing poker myself pretty boring.

ur dumb

and like two months late and stuff

b+ for effort or something i guess

I find it amazingly exciting. I was glued to the stream last year because Ivey was in it, didn't miss one hand.

Speaking of poker....does anyone here ever go downtown to play? I think I wanna start playing a bit more live cash in 2011. Wonder if I might bump into anyone.

I was actually ok with Jason Forcier backing up Chad Henne, even though I was looking forward to seeing Antonio Bass in an increased role before he tore his knee up. People try to say that it was Mallett transferring that killed the program (he was leaving anyway, RR or not), but it was really Bass not being able to come back from that God-awful injury.

Anyway, David Cone--really?

Now that we are playing the meat of our schedule--teams that reall have a defense--and Denard is getting banged up, it has made him much less effective as a passer. Over the last three games--all games where he was depended on to throw because we were behind--he's averaged 169 yards, completed 58.6% of his passes thrown 3 TDs and 4 INTs . . . and his longest run has been 32 yards because they are taking the corner away from him with containment.

Mayber he has a longer way to go as a passer than we thought. The first few defenses we played were so bad, it is hard to really evaluate. Is his shoulder is hurt worse than we know (like Tate last year)? Or have defenses crafted sort of "Jordan Rules" for him? In other words, making us win with our complimentary players--when he makes plays on his own they justfunnell him into the heart of the defense and take shots at him that Laimbeer and Mahorn would be proud of.

It has been fun watching him make plays this year . . . but defenses are keying on him now. VS has been so ineffective, Hopkins isn't getting short-yardage carries, the coaches don't trust Cox, Teric Jones needs to be back in the secondary if he isn't going to get some run at RB, Shaw--still hurt???, and Fitz is probably out for the year (again). In short, the coaches seem resigned to make our offense a one-man show, and the non-Indiana Big Ten teams on our schedule have enough talent on defense to make us pay for it.

If RR wants to stick around, he's going to have to diversify. I'd just prefer not to get a majority of our yards and points when we are coming from behind and the defense is playing soft to prevent the big play.

Lastly: Pocket passers get hurt as much as running qbs? I'm not sure how to really go about getting a hard stat for that--you can slant that one any way you want it. All I know is that at the half-way mark of the last two seasons, running read option spread, our starting qb has gotten banged up and we started losing football games. Part of this is due to a drop in productivity from the qb after the point of injury, most of it is due to our schedule being back-end heavy and us not having a safety that can break a 4.6 40. The numbers speak for themselves when you look at them.

Tell me why I'm dumb, and maybe I'll be dumb enough to believe you.

You're glossing over quite a few basic facts, like how Denard is not hurt and how he just barely missed out on another 200/200 game.

But whatever, keep on doing what you're doing.

Tate still does stupid **** too, like throw really bad INTs and force way too many balls in with that average arm. He's also too cavalier in the way he handles the ball in terms of fumbling and handoff gaffes.

Devin throws the best deep ball on the team, and it's not even close--bad mechanics or not. His running isn't ideal at this point, but either is Tate's.

But, I guess I can't blame you for liking Tate's 12-12 performance in mop-up duty against a bad team's 2nd string . . .

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How do you know he isn't hurt? Do you see the same top-end speed and explosion through the hole he had the first few games before drilling his knee on the turf? That's a bone bruise, and isn't going away without major rest--it will be nagging him through the rest of conference play. RR said as much in a press conf. Is his shoulder back to where it was? Maybe and maybe not . . . his numbers have declined since getting whacked at MSU, and in games where he's had to play from behind.

Is 200/200 how you are gauging this team's success? What he has done to now is nothing short of impressive, but it is taking its toll . . . and teams have stopped us in the 1st half three straight weeks.

probably about as much as you cared about our kicking game before we started shanking kickoffs out of bounds.

lol . . . that's just too funny to even come back at