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Old 10-19-2018, 09:16 AM   #49526
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Oh it was terrible, and that team was loaded with NFL talent, but the blame lies, in my opinion, with whatever moron scheduled the game in the first place.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:58 AM   #49527
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Where does Appy St 2007 rank on the list of UM losses? I remember ILP doing some revisionist history how that was a generationally great team that underperformed.
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Oh it was terrible, and that team was loaded with NFL talent, but the blame lies, in my opinion, with whatever moron scheduled the game in the first place.
In terms of most LOLs by opposing fanbases, it's clearly #1.

But in other terms, meh. In retrospect it's not that shocking. Appy State 2007 was a very good team and together with the pasting administered by Oregon the following week it laid bare some of the deficiencies of the late Carr era. There was still top-end NFL talent, but it was thin. The back 7 on defense was particularly thin -- something that was exploited by Ohio State in 2006 and just got worse. The coordinators were Mike DeBord (should need no explanation) and Ron English, who got too much credit for 2006 and did nothing of note thereafter.

What was shocking was the Notre Dame game the following week.
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Old 10-19-2018, 01:48 PM   #49528
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Where does Appy St 2007 rank on the list of UM losses? I remember ILP doing some revisionist history how that was a generationally great team that underperformed.
The most devastating games are the ones you should've won but didnt. Like that ND vs Northwestern game a few years back where Kelly couldve kneeled to victory but didnt and you guys fumbled. The App St gm doesn't qualify.

Yea I know we should've made that FG but it took basically a hail mary completion to get to that point. The thing is App St played a great game. They were the better team that day. Those kindve losses never bother me.

And I know im in the minority here but I feared that game all off-season. I actually had nightmares about losing that game. I knew App St ran the EXACT offense our coaching staff had no clue how to stop. I knew App St was the best possible version of that in their albeit lower level.

Of course leading up to the game part me said "dont worry bro, your fears are irrational, this is still Michigan and they are not NW 2000." But sure enough somewhere in the first half it became evident that my worst fears were real and we were in for a dog fight and at that point I had already accepted the real possibility of a loss.

So yea I know the nation was shocked and lolled at Michigan hard. "Greatest upset of all time!! Etc, etc" but man it didn't feel like an upset to me. As dth said we should've never scheduled that goddamn game.
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Old 10-19-2018, 02:39 PM   #49529
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Dr. ikes going HAM in the mgoboard LTT thread.
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Old 10-19-2018, 03:16 PM   #49530
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Dr. ikes going HAM in the mgoboard LTT thread.
Someone in the thread told ikes he "should learn when to quit."

Lolol they have no clue who theyre ****ing with.

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Old 10-19-2018, 04:12 PM   #49531
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1980 South Carolina was the Appy St of that generation.
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Old 10-19-2018, 04:22 PM   #49532
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Erm, no mention of The David Harris game? That's the toughest loss I've endured as an M fan though I absolutely remember where I was during both the '00 NW game and '01 Spartan Bob.

The toughest losses I've watched in person are '02 Iowa and '01 Purdue. The former felt like getting a root canal. You kept thinking it couldn't get any worse. And then it kept getting worse. The latter was the worst case of who wants it less that I've ever seen in person. '02 OSU kind of felt inevitable before the game and even though the first half was encouraging the second half also felt like the hammer was dropping continually.

PLEASE win tomorrow. I'm not going to use my one time because I think this team has bigger things going for it. But PLEASE, for the love of God, win tomorrow.
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Old 10-19-2018, 06:07 PM   #49533
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Ohio State 16 >>>>>>>>

Sports writers like to talk about “the moment before the moment.” Like, the thing that happens that is incredible all by itself that is forgotten because of the often game-deciding play that comes after.

I think about this a lot with ‘16 OSU. The play before the 4th and 1, Michigan has won 1st and 2nd down and has forced OSU into 3rd and 9. Because they don’t trust their OL to protect longer than 1.5 seconds, OSU dials up a swing pass to Curt Samuel that Michigan has absolutely dead to rights. Samuel realizes that their kicker is pants and if he eats a 3 yard loss there it’s probably ball game. So he tries a cutback, completely reverses field, ends up going a good ten yards behind the line of scrimmage, somehow finds some daylight, and turns that potential 10 yard loss into an 8 yard gain to set up 4th and 1. It felt strange as a Michigan fan, but there wasn’t a second that he was bobbing and weaving and playing PAC-Man in his own backfield that I wasn’t certain that Lewis, or Peppers, or Hill, or Thomas to shoot in and plant him, followed by JT on a 4th and forever tossing up a wounded duck of a pick to end it and send Michigan to the playoff.

Alas. I think about it a lot.
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Old 10-19-2018, 06:29 PM   #49534
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Old 10-19-2018, 06:56 PM   #49535
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1980 South Carolina was the Appy St of that generation.
It's funny, I vaguely remember the Notre Dame game from the week before, but have zero recollection of that South Carolina game. I know USCe wasn't any great power at the time, but they did have the Heisman winner.

Didn't have any impact on the rest of the season, though I suppose they could have been ranked higher than #4 in the final polls if they'd had one (or zero, for that matter) loss instead of two.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:12 PM   #49536
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Ohio State 16 >>>>>>>>

Sports writers like to talk about “the moment before the moment.” Like, the thing that happens that is incredible all by itself that is forgotten because of the often game-deciding play that comes after.

I think about this a lot with ‘16 OSU. The play before the 4th and 1, Michigan has won 1st and 2nd down and has forced OSU into 3rd and 9. Because they don’t trust their OL to protect longer than 1.5 seconds, OSU dials up a swing pass to Curt Samuel that Michigan has absolutely dead to rights. Samuel realizes that their kicker is pants and if he eats a 3 yard loss there it’s probably ball game. So he tries a cutback, completely reverses field, ends up going a good ten yards behind the line of scrimmage, somehow finds some daylight, and turns that potential 10 yard loss into an 8 yard gain to set up 4th and 1. It felt strange as a Michigan fan, but there wasn’t a second that he was bobbing and weaving and playing PAC-Man in his own backfield that I wasn’t certain that Lewis, or Peppers, or Hill, or Thomas to shoot in and plant him, followed by JT on a 4th and forever tossing up a wounded duck of a pick to end it and send Michigan to the playoff.

Alas. I think about it a lot.
Right or wrong, I still blame Peppers for that loss, he needed to make that play.
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Old 10-19-2018, 09:19 PM   #49537
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Just ****ing win tomorrow please.

Sparties will be insufferable if they win this game.
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Old 10-19-2018, 11:35 PM   #49538
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:14 AM   #49539
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I mean michigan has a good chance no doubt but bolded is lolol even for ILP. the offense is legit loaded. osu 4th and 5th wr (binjimin victor and austin mack) would be the focal point of michigans offense and will proly even make the nfl.

kj hill, parris campbell, mclaughlin and dixon make a ton of plays.

and dobbins will be a 2nd rounder while weber is 3rd or 4th.

like, this offense is one of the most loaded of all time for osu.
Ok I'll admit I've only watched Ohio State vs TCU and Penn State, small sample size obviously, but I wasn't impressed, but yeah I know the ole eye test can lie so I'll cede to your assessment over mine. And I agree that Michigan's receiving corps is nothing to fear either but if/when we get Black back 100% healthy that will change everything. Black is a true NFL talent that even the best college defense would have trouble stopping. He alone will open up the field for all the other WRs, and our elite TEs. With Black healthy, Michigan will have their most potent offense since Tom Brady was on the roster.

That said, your supposedly loaded offense is a walk in the park compared to any Troy Smith team, and even a team lead by accuracy-challenged Barrett is more scary. You see it really doesn't matter how loaded your offense is because it has one giant, fatal flaw that Barrett/Smith teams didn't have. No matter how good your offense is, when you have a QB who can't run out of trouble, a great defense can blow everything up, and that's exactly what's gonna happen. Ohio State's loaded offense is actually perfectly gift wrapped for Michigan's defense, which is the first time I can say that since the Bellisari years.
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:42 AM   #49540
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PLEASE win tomorrow. I'm not going to use my one time because I think this team has bigger things going for it. But PLEASE, for the love of God, win tomorrow.
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Just ****ing win tomorrow please.

Sparties will be insufferable if they win this game.
You can really feel the PTSD here, and it's extremely misguided, and I'll admit I was guilty of it too:

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Here's the reason we don't have to worry AT ALL about tomorrow. The Wisconsin game changed everything. We saw what this Michigan offense can look like when Shea is unleashed and incorporated into the run game. We saw what this Michigan team did to a solid Wisconsin team. IOW we have new and valuable information now. We now know this Michigan team is the real deal and by that I mean we are truly a complete team, and since I just used a cliche to describe a cliche I'll be more specific. We now have enough information to conclude that this team is better than 2006. With 'do everything' Shea, our offense is more potent than 2006, and our defense is right up there with that team and even if you disagree, the advantages of this multidimensional offense with Shea overcome the possible gap between those defenses. Our special teams are near flawless, and of course we have a better coaching staff than 2006. Great Michigan teams with historically great Michigan QBs don't lose to mediocre Michigan State teams.

You look at the history over the last 10 years and it's mostly been us with bad to mediocre teams with bad to mediocre QBs. Denard was a good QB, certainly good enough to sweep MSU over a four year period but he was always on bad to mediocre teams, and thank god he was fortunate enough to get 1 win vs Dantonio's 2nd worst team over that span. Forcier was pretty good in 2009 but that team sucked, and we damn near won. SP8 was a mediocre QB on a good michigan team and we won in 2016. The one year where we had an elite QB (Rudock) on a good team it took major ref riggage combined with the flukiest play of all time to sink our ship. But this team is much better than that 2015 version anyways, and that playoff bound MSU team was obviously much better than this modern mediocre version. Perhaps the only time I witnessed a great michigan team with a great QB lose to State was in 99. But again, that Michigan State team was not even close to mediocre. It was one of their strongest ever, and we still barely lost at their place.

Bottom line, in my storied, ethereal and geologically ephemeral life, a great Michigan team with a great michigan QB has NEVER lost to a mediocre MSU team. The last 10 years of struggle and devastation have NO BEARING on tomorrow. We haven't had this big of an edge since the John L Smith years. Expect a low stress easy victory tomorrow gentlemen. Stop with the PTSD poastings. The times have changed. I'm not gonna tell you Michigan is BACK!! cuz that's an understatement. The truth is we have rarely been this good throughout the entire history of this program. All the possible bad variance/crooked reffing in the world will not be able to save this rendition of Michigan State tomorrow. Michigan 34 MSU 13.
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Old 10-20-2018, 11:30 AM   #49541
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Just ****ing win tomorrow please.

Sparties will be insufferable if they win this game.
could be worse you could live here!

OT but we should get a michigan sports slack going.
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Old 10-20-2018, 11:41 AM   #49542
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You can really feel the PTSD here, and it's extremely misguided, and I'll admit I was guilty of it too:







Here's the reason we don't have to worry AT ALL about tomorrow. The Wisconsin game changed everything. We saw what this Michigan offense can look like when Shea is unleashed and incorporated into the run game. We saw what this Michigan team did to a solid Wisconsin team. IOW we have new and valuable information now. We now know this Michigan team is the real deal and by that I mean we are truly a complete team, and since I just used a cliche to describe a cliche I'll be more specific. We now have enough information to conclude that this team is better than 2006. With 'do everything' Shea, our offense is more potent than 2006, and our defense is right up there with that team and even if you disagree, the advantages of this multidimensional offense with Shea overcome the possible gap between those defenses. Our special teams are near flawless, and of course we have a better coaching staff than 2006. Great Michigan teams with historically great Michigan QBs don't lose to mediocre Michigan State teams.



You look at the history over the last 10 years and it's mostly been us with bad to mediocre teams with bad to mediocre QBs. Denard was a good QB, certainly good enough to sweep MSU over a four year period but he was always on bad to mediocre teams, and thank god he was fortunate enough to get 1 win vs Dantonio's 2nd worst team over that span. Forcier was pretty good in 2009 but that team sucked, and we damn near won. SP8 was a mediocre QB on a good michigan team and we won in 2016. The one year where we had an elite QB (Rudock) on a good team it took major ref riggage combined with the flukiest play of all time to sink our ship. But this team is much better than that 2015 version anyways, and that playoff bound MSU team was obviously much better than this modern mediocre version. Perhaps the only time I witnessed a great michigan team with a great QB lose to State was in 99. But again, that Michigan State team was not even close to mediocre. It was one of their strongest ever, and we still barely lost at their place.



Bottom line, in my storied, ethereal and geologically ephemeral life, a great Michigan team with a great michigan QB has NEVER lost to a mediocre MSU team. The last 10 years of struggle and devastation have NO BEARING on tomorrow. We haven't had this big of an edge since the John L Smith years. Expect a low stress easy victory tomorrow gentlemen. Stop with the PTSD poastings. The times have changed. I'm not gonna tell you Michigan is BACK!! cuz that's an understatement. The truth is we have rarely been this good throughout the entire history of this program. All the possible bad variance/crooked reffing in the world will not be able to save this rendition of Michigan State tomorrow. Michigan 34 MSU 13.


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Old 10-20-2018, 12:18 PM   #49543
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Old 10-20-2018, 12:44 PM   #49544
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these bad weather suspensions are the worst
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Old 10-20-2018, 01:58 PM   #49545
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Told you guys it was gonna be a blowout
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Old 10-20-2018, 02:28 PM   #49546
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Harbaugh just tried to draw them offsides on 4th and 10 from the 35 yard line. The reason he is not a big game coach--which his record clearly shows--is not because of some dumb media created narrative. It's because Harbaugh is literally ****ing retarded.
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4th and 5 on the 38 yard line and we punt it. BIG GAME HARBAUGH
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Old 10-20-2018, 02:34 PM   #49548
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One more TD gives us 100% equity and we refuse to even try. So ****ing pathetic.
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Old 10-20-2018, 02:34 PM   #49549
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Got that 18 yards of FP noob
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Old 10-20-2018, 02:42 PM   #49550
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unbelievable that this is even a game
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