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09-26-2009 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
after msu's effort against cmu and wisco? probably not, but we won't be big favorites, and i'm very nervous for the game.... even though i know tate won't be.
I'm nervous that Tate won't be 100% for that game.
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09-26-2009 , 09:40 PM
I really though State was just running bad vs CMU with the onside kick and godlike field goal kicker and then ND with the late INT after driving down the whole field but then they go and give up 38!!!!! points to WI.... wtf it's Wisconsin!

but this being said I am also very nervous about this game
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09-26-2009 , 09:42 PM
Roh is going to be awesome. He's small because he's a freshman, but will be sick.

And yeah, this team is one or two injuries away from just being seriously lol on defense. We have no depth.
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09-26-2009 , 09:43 PM
This team is one (Tate Forcier) or two (Tate Forcier, Denard Robinson) injuries from just being seriously lol on offense too. Although I don't think this is an especially serious condemnation of Michigan's depth, as no team can lose their two deep on the QB depth chart and be that competitive, except for the USC's of the world. But the dropoff from 1/2 to 3 on the depth chart is precipitous and our 1/2 is probably more likely to get hurt than most other teams.

Paper thin margins this season.
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09-26-2009 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
Thoughts on the game:

1) I love the view from the alumni seats (section 2 ftw) but the atmosphere is pathetic and the old people behind me need to not get so pissed off when I'm standing up for a big play and screaming my head off.

2) I'm not positive, but I think UM may have been better off only playing 10 guys on defense instead of Cissoko. Just kidding, but he's definitely going on the shelf until Floyd plays worse than him, which is legitimately impossible.

3) Speaking of Floyd, the refs outdid themselves this week and called a PI on him on a ball that went 10 yards over him and the receiver's head.

4) We agreed at the time that IU made a huge tactical error by kicking the field goal on 4th and 3 on UM's 3 yard line (2nd quarter maybe?) to go up 20-14. Putting UM on their 3 vs letting them start at the 30 or 40 + the ev of going for it on 4th seemed like a bonehead move. Jim Tressel would've been proud.

5) IU wanted us to have great field position all day. Stonum - 7kr, 221 yards, long of 45. How do not consider kicking to anyone else on the field besides him???

6) If I see another snap end up on the ground 20 yards behind the line of scrimmage I'm going to kill something. My dad made a pretty good joke, saying that IU should intentionally jump offsides to induce the ******ed snap play from MoOOOOSMANANANAN.

7) I kinda wish we could throw the ball downfield occasionally. Even if the passes are mostly errant, it'll be good to keep the D on their toes.

8) Fat Kevin Grady rocks the Power I!

9) Is IU good at football? How did we give up 450+ yards from scrimmage to them?

10) Where is Junior Hemingway?

11) go blue
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Back from the game. Thoughts:

- holy **** our LBs are terribad.
- holy **** our safeties are terribad.
- holy **** our corners not named Donovan Warren are terribad

Also Tate Forcier is not fast enough nor durable enough to make the decisions he does. I love Tate, I really do, but holy ****, THROW THE BALL AWAY SON. He's getting away with it because it's Indiana and Eastern, but he's getting crushed and doing costly stupid things and we're not going to fade those beats forever. We're one catastrophic hit away from significant Sherridamnit playing time.

On the plus side:

- Hey maybe Carlos Brown is a late round NFL pick?
- Darryl Stonum is exciting

I'll call it a very successful season if we take care of **** against Purdue and Delaware State, luckbox a road Big Ten win at either MSU or Illinois, and I'll enjoy our 7-5 season and trip to the Champs Sports Bowl. Saw a lot of forlorn faces coming out of the Big House today, but people are crazy. This team is not going to compete for a Big Ten title. Brian has been stressing this on mgoblog, but this season is for ENJOYING wins, regardless if we escape by a hair against a Big Ten doormat. The game was actually incredibly fun today, if you can silence your inner rage about the mistakes and poor execution on defense. I'm not saying it's a great win, or anything to be proud of, but it was fun, and I walked out happy.
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Any chance a 4-0 Michigan team probably ranked in the top 20 will be a road dog at 1-3 MSU next week? Sagarin predictor (pretty meaningless right now) has State as -4 on a neutral field before today's games.

My guess is we're ~3 pt favorites.
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
This team is one (Tate Forcier) or two (Tate Forcier, Denard Robinson) injuries from just being seriously lol on offense too. Although I don't think this is an especially serious condemnation of Michigan's depth, as no team can lose their two deep on the QB depth chart and be that competitive, except for the USC's of the world. But the dropoff from 1/2 to 3 on the depth chart is precipitous and our 1/2 is probably more likely to get hurt than most other teams.

Paper thin margins this season.
i was going to respond to a lot of things from those posts, but i'll just go with:

1. stonum is awesome. he's a threat every kickoff. reminds me of josh cribbs (if you happen to have to watch the browns every sunday)...

2. the snaps by moosman were smart at first, thinking he was getting a free 5. but the ones after that had nothing to do with penalties, he just wasn't good at snapping to a shotgun.

3. where WAS junior hemingway?

4. entire defense needs to really, really step up, because they are awful. they are the reason we're 4-0 and i can't be totally happy.

5. i'm afraid of Tate getting hurt too, but Tate is superman, and should be treated as such.

6. the point spread of the msu game i'm really interested in seeing. a 4-0 team at a 1-3 team, but if msu is getting more than a couple points, i'll be on them, just like i had Indiana (+20.5) today. no offense, but when betting on a team i know well, i'm not afraid to take the right side, shrug it off and root to lose my money if i think it's 'right'.

7. depth? that word assumes we have ANY.

go blue.
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09-26-2009 , 11:58 PM
A couple of observations about Michigan football this year (from a non Michigan fan perspective):

1. Your defense is a POS.

2. When I grow up I want to be Tate Forcier.

3. You guys have a decent chance of upsetting OSU at the Horseshoe.

4. Next year your team going to a BCS contender/favorite, if you improve your defense.

If it hasn't been said before on this thread, " May the Forcier be with you."
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09-27-2009 , 12:17 AM
FWIW, we haven't scored 30+ points 4x in a row since 2000 (last 4 games) + 1st game of 2001.
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09-27-2009 , 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by wiz_apprentice
A couple of observations about Michigan football this year (from a non Michigan fan perspective):

1. Your defense is a POS.

2. When I grow up I want to be Tate Forcier.

3. You guys have a decent chance of upsetting OSU at the Horseshoe.

4. Next year your team going to a BCS contender/favorite, if you improve your defense.

If it hasn't been said before on this thread, " May the Forcier be with you."
We play OSU at home. Maaaaaaaaaaaybe bcs contender.... favorite is a stretch.
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09-27-2009 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ikestoys
We play OSU at home. Maaaaaaaaaaaybe bcs contender.... favorite is a stretch.
My apologies. I should of looked that up. (Told you I wasn't a Michigan fan.)

Big Ten isn't that good, I think you guys can make a BCS bowl with a substantially improved defense, next year.
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09-27-2009 , 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by wiz_apprentice
Big Ten isn't that good, I think you guys can make a BCS bowl with a substantially improved defense, next year.
Our defense probably won't be a whole lot better until 2011. I could easily be wrong. It all depends on the development of guys we're not seeing right now. Maybe Justin Turner is the real deal and has just not been on campus long enough. Roh could be a pass rushing monster by next season. Big Will could be ready for prime time next year. Maybe LaLota's ready, too. Vlad could be solid. We need some young LBs to step up because we're still going to be seeing Mouton, who isn't any better at LB than he was last year, and Ezeh, who hasn't improved in three years of play, starting. I would really, really like to see Fitzgerald, Demens, Bell, Hawthorne, Smith, Jones, somebody PLEASE STEP UP and start getting some significant playing time this season. With our starters playing the way they are, it really worries me that none of the young LBs are playing well enough to get any significant PT.

Those young LBs I listed have a combined 12 tackles right now. Most of those may be on special teams. Kevin Leach has 12 tackles. This is not good.
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09-27-2009 , 12:11 PM
Thoughts from the game:

David Molk being out hurt us big time. There was obviously an issue with Moosman's snaps (even if they weren't all his fault), and he really got beat a lot, had at least one holding call and a couple coulda-beens. Center/QB familiarity is huge, and we obviously didn't have it yesterday.

Run the ball on first down (and just more in general) please. The second and longs killed us all game.

Receiver blocking is one of the biggest improvements from last year. Sprung both big plays in the first quarter.

We absolutely have to get more pressure on the D-Line. Whether they go to 4 down linemen or they blitz more, something needs to change. The secondary really did a fairly good job when they didn't have to cover for 5+ seconds.

JT Floyd should be playing over Boo Boo all day. I don't know or care whether he's hurt. Floyd recognizes plays a million times better. The only real time he got "beat" was in one of his first plays when he jumped the route and was just a split second late and the receiver made a good play for a touchdown.

Really hope Tate is okay. First indications are tweaked shoulder that might not be anything too serious, but he has to be healthy. He's just a winner, he's so fun to watch late in games.

Obi Ezeh should simply not be playing linebacker. If he sees any snaps, they should be at DE. Go to Martin and Van Bergen inside, Graham and Roh/Ezeh outside. The D-Line needs to be shaken up badly, they're under performing and it's really hurting us.

Zoltan for Heisman.
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09-27-2009 , 02:05 PM
I can't argue against Floyd playing over BooBoo, but what scares me is that he is a huge liability when it comes to tackling. Of course, with those two it's pick your poison.

Development (or seeming lack thereof) with our younger LBs is depressing - JB Fitzgerald and Brandon Smith are supposedly our best prospects; Fitz was turrbl against EMU (check the UFR) and Smith has been nonexistent. What's worse is the starters keep making the same mistakes as last year, and imo that's on the position coach.
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09-27-2009 , 02:10 PM
My uncle isn't drinking the R-Rod kool-aid yet. Makes me sad.
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09-27-2009 , 02:13 PM
freep has a new article supposedly about the investigation, but really its just a chance for them to repeat the original accusations without talking about what the rules actually are.
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09-27-2009 , 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dawade
My uncle isn't drinking the R-Rod kool-aid yet. Makes me sad.
What's his reason?
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09-27-2009 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tumaterminator
What's his reason?
"no teams that compete for a championship are running that spread offense crap. after all, you saw what we did to florida".

uncle, didn't florida win the national championship 2 of the last 3 seasons?
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09-27-2009 , 02:37 PM
Why is Floyd a tackling liability? Because he missed one tackle leading to a touchdown? Really he just reacted a split second late and tried to make a play on the ball.

In any case, I'd rather have a guy who recognizes and reacts to plays well than an above average tackling CB who basically gives his opposition an easy ten yard catch every play.
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09-27-2009 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dawade
"no teams that compete for a championship are running that spread offense crap. after all, you saw what we did to florida".

uncle, didn't florida win the national championship 2 of the last 3 seasons?
lolol, besides that, hasn't he seen the inability of b10 teams to stop the spread?
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09-27-2009 , 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mjw0586
Why is Floyd a tackling liability? Because he missed one tackle leading to a touchdown? Really he just reacted a split second late and tried to make a play on the ball.

In any case, I'd rather have a guy who recognizes and reacts to plays well than an above average tackling CB who basically gives his opposition an easy ten yard catch every play.
I agree and it's not close
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09-27-2009 , 02:54 PM
The only other "missed" tackle I can remember is one where Floyd was basically run over. But still, he waited for the guy to make a move, used great form, and just was over matched size-wise. Boo Boo's much smaller so he's not going to do any better against a bigger receiver in that case.

Floyd impressed me yesterday. Always seemed to be in good position. I was at the game so could've missed little stuff, but I was pleasantly surprised.
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09-27-2009 , 03:31 PM
Well, we have a punter. Hagerup finally committed.
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09-27-2009 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by heater
Well, we have a punter. Hagerup finally committed.
that mgb thread about this is awesome.

people are really pumped about the punter!
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09-27-2009 , 03:55 PM
what thread?
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09-27-2009 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Franchise 60
So is the "perma" thread just so your thread looks bigger? Or is there some good excuse you'll hit me with since I believe you are the only fan base here who has a "perma" thread?

Pro Tip: If you post about ND in the "perma" thread, your thread will look ever cooler
you should have checked a couple off seasons ago. When you seached for "Notre Dame" the first hit was the Michiagn thread. They are here because Michigan fans are by and large trolls here to insult other tems because they have nothing else. To date their team has two cheated wins and great showing against local colleges that shouldn't make the M practice squad.
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