Just further illustrates that the promotion of humans to hero status and worshipping institutions are not smart moves.

I get your point - but I think that when looking at Bo BITD most of us didn't elevte him to "Hero Status". We just felt like he was a good guy. A home town guy coaching at the wrong school. The relationship between the two HCs, and their families, simply added to it. Bo spoke at Woodys memorial service and was welcomed by the masses.

Now even though "worshipping institutions" might be a tad exagerated, the fact that many of us MIGHT falll into that category is illustrated by the shear popularity of the athletic products they put out. Mind you, there are MANY that fall into that category that don't follow sports at all. Schools are part of a communities fabric. All that said - when a person or "institution" falls from grace it effects all those that follow them.

The key is to accept the failures, admit how horrible things were, and address the issues involved. I believe um will do that because it is a quality institution. Others that have faced similar issues choose not to, and will live with that stigma forever.

It’s shameful. All of it. PSU, OSU and UM. They all turned a blind eye to systemic abuse. Hollow lip service doesn’t clear the stains.

Don't forget about MSU! People need to fully understand how cutthroat the B1G East really is!

and there's plenty of B1G brown stains to go around

meanwhile Don James & UW got railroaded by the Pac (and then NCAA), because some booster allegedly paid a few players to water ski instead of work

The interesting thing about the 4 mentioned above is that 2 were coaches and 2 were team doctors that caused the mayhem. Also interesting is how the schools handled the information once the situations were uncovered. In todays age of the immediate social media news cycle we will see more and more abuses uncovered. Hopefully the new ones will handle them better that the obvious f-ups we have seen so far.

Doesn't seem that hard to believe. Old-timey tough guy football coach who thinks feelings are for sissies can't handle his son telling him something horrible happened (which Bo would probably think meant he failed as a father in protecting his son) and lashes out.

If one of his other kids even said something like, "I wasn't there, but my dad was a jerk, so anything's possible", then I would believe it. But if his other kids don't believe that story, then I'm not believing it either. BTW I watched the entire press conference. I found the testimony of Dan Kwiatkowski and Gilvanni Johnson extremely convincing. Besides that, same with Jon Vaughn, Jarrod Bunch and others. Very compelling. I believe them. But when it comes to Matt Schembechler, IDK man, my spidey sense is telling me not to trust that guy. When I read what he says or when I hear him talk my bullshit detector goes off.

Michigan as 17 point favorites seems real questionable. Betting on Broncos free money?

It's a sucker bet. Michigan has a quarterback now. This is a 10-2 team that's gonna crush Western. People don't realize it yet that Michigan is back.

i’ve had tickets for tomorrow for a month… leggoooo football! in the big house!!

Ronnie Bell one man army.

completely deflated the stadium for 10 mins when he got hurt :-(

Pretty impressive game all around at Wisconsin this week.

That was a big win


Just need 10 more now

That was impressive from Jim. Going for it on 4th down 5-6 times. Knowing he had to get the lead


Only glaring mistake was the squib kick at the end of the first half. But whatever. 5-0 2-0

Squib kick was unconscionable no doubt. I was on rage tilt the instant it happened and no im not being results oriented. Kick it deep and they play conservative and go to the locker room. Squib it and put it at the 35 and now you actually induce them to play correctly. Now they're forced to try. When you have two strategies to choose from, one strategy which induces your opponent to try, the other inducing your opponent to give up, always choose the latter. This isn't rocket surgery.

Other than that horrendous mistake it was a beautiful game plan. Coaches played to win from the get-go, the defense was nearly perfect, and the offense made enough plays to get the win.

The floor for this team is now 10-2. The ceiling 11-1. We're a cut above every big ten team except Ohio State. IOW Michigan is back to their rightful place.

ILP, did you happen to lose the rest of your football season bankroll betting on Rutgers -2 against Northwestern? If so please advise so we can lock in a championship.

Wasn't too pleased to see Northwestern have a pulse last week, really could use a walkover to get healthy and get some backups experience before we Sparty.

(full disclosure, if I bet on sports I would have hammered Rutgers -2).

I thought Rutgers -2 was a lock too but then I watched some podcast--Bigger Ten--and the guy was talking about how Rutgers has got to be physically beat up by having to play Michigan, OSU and MSU in back to back to back weeks and that sure NW hasn't looked good this year but they still have a great coach and a bye week to get something right. The funny thing is the guy said all this and then still picked Rutgers anyways but that line of thought spooked me enough to stay away. Overall tho I haven't really bet much this year. I just got out of a relationship and gave her 12K to help her on her way, and I lent her daughter 7K to get a new car (the probability of that loan defaulting is around 90% lol). So I basically blew my whole gambling allowance before the season even started. So I've had to stay mostly on the sidelines. Certainly no crazy bets. Sux too since Michigan is around 5-1 against the spread this year depending whether one got the right line vs Neb. The one year Michigan wouldn't destroy me sigh.

Either way, everybody better be fully soaking this year in. This is a magical year for Michigan. We are very likely gonna be undefeated going into November, something that's only happened like 3 times in our lives counting this year.

RE: Nebraska. Amazing atmosphere. Beautiful game flaws and all. I have only one thing to complain about. That point in the game where it was like 3rd and 6 and a first down effectively ends the game cuz we would've been able to kill the clock and kick and extra point FG for the win. The coaching staff doesn't even go for it. They put McCarthy out there on an obvious run play which is basically just settling for a FG and hoping the defense holds. At this point it's not really worth bitching about. This is who Harbaugh is, he's not a big game coach, but man I can't put into words how bad that is. When getting 6 yards wins the game you have to try to WIN THE ****ING GAME.

As far as MSU: I don't really think this game will be that close. As far as skill position players I think it's a tie but Michigan should have a pretty large edge on both lines and that alone should decide the game. Obviously what Tucker has done is magnificent. Urban Meyer-esk. But as great as this turn around is, there's no way he has rebuilt those lines in a year's time. MSU is vulnerable. They just haven't been exploited yet. Michigan 27 MSU 10.

Our big game and big rival is still PSU. We win that game and then we can talk about playoffs, the idea being we lose to OSU, go 11-1 and somehow get in anyways. As I think I've mentioned before, I no longer view OSU as a rival anymore becuz that game no longer exists on the schedule for me. The Penn State game is THE GAME every year for me now. If Clifford is healthy I still expect a close line like PSU -3. If PSU has to play that back up it should be Michigan -10. He's THAT bad.

All we have to do is split MSU/PSU and we lock in a great year going 10-2. As far as NW I agree they have a pulse now but obviously I'm not too worried. That said, there's no way I would bet Michigan -23.5. That line is ridiculous man. You either have to bet NW at that line or you don't bet at all. Even tho Michigan is having a great year that doesn't mean Michigan is a great team. I think they're good. I mean a lot of teams are good and we're one of those teams. But the problem with "good" teams is if they don't play their A game they can lose to anyone. See Iowa. If Michigan doesn't play their A game vs NW that's gonna be a 4th quarter game. I think they will tho. I don't think McNamara will let this team slip. Dude has the it factor leadership skills. Also the hate he gets is ridiculous. He can make all the throws and he moves the offense and he barely ever makes mistakes. The origin of the hate boils down to this--explicitly or subconsciously--he's not good enough to beat Ohio State.....which is true, but so ****ing what. Why do people still care about that game?!?!? The bottom line is he is good enough to beat every other team on our schedule and frankly that's as good as it gets. If one isn't satisfied with that they suck at being a Michigan fan. With all the QB misadventures we had sense Henne graduated having a QB like McNamara should be a breath of fresh air.

BTW there's only 4 great teams out there: Georgia, Bama, Ohio State, and Oklahoma. Yes Oklahoma is now considered a great team becuz they now have the best QB in the game. He's right up there with the all time college football greats (Cam Newton, Burrow, Tua, Fields). It's scary man.

Beat Sparty plzkthx

So is Mich actually good this year?

They are in the tier of teams that would ordinarily be considered pretty good but everyone will shitcan them once they lose because they aren’t Georgia/ Alabama / Ohio State/ Oklahoma good.

Will most likely finish 9-3 or maybe 10-2 and lose an irrelevant bowl game.

Don't be so sure. They will beat Sparty and cruise into the game against OSU. This is the best total team I have seen from them in a decade. They are likely to be ranked #2 right ahead of OSU and Bama. That game at the big house will be like the (g)olden days!!!

"Good" is the operative word. Yes we are good. Our front 7 is legit top 10 in the nation. Our OL is probably top 10 also. We also have the best RB room in the nation. And we may have the best special teams in the nation. This makes us "good" but we are not great. There are only 3-4 teams that are great. tOSU, Bama, Georgia and maybe Oklahoma (I had them firmly as great with their new QB but after that Kansas game idk anymore). Michigan should still be a double digit underdog to tOSU, Bama, and Georgia, but against anyone else I like Michigan's chances.

Why we are not great:

1) Our QB is immobile and his accuracy is not consistent enough. I still love him tho. He's a good game manager, doesn't make many mistakes and moves the offense. But he's not the type of QB that can beat the great teams. This doesn't bother me in the slightest. All I want is a QB that can put us in the hunt to win 10-11 games, and we have that so I am happy.

2) We have zero talent at WR. They can't get separation, they can't high point 50-50 balls, in short they suck. As you probably already know, our best WR, Ronnie Bell, got injured game 1 and is out for the year. Here's the thing tho, Ronnie Bell would never make the field on a vintage Lloyd Carr team, so that tells you something. He's the best we had and he'd be a water boy for many past Michigan teams.

3) Our CBs probably still suck. They've held up fine so far but that's becuz we haven't really played a competent passing attack. They're going to get exposed big time vs tOSU.

So yeah, we are a good but flawed team that is currently having a great year probably heading toward 11-1 and going to the Rose Bowl. That's pretty sweet but they don't have a chance vs Ohio State unless it's hurricane weather like tOSU-MSU 2015 or we run super hot in turnover variance, like +3 or more, or Stroud gets knocked out early a la Clifford vs Iowa. I'll be tickled pink if Michigan can hang with tOSU for 2 quarters. That's all one can hope for I think.