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Kansas City Chiefs: No Longer the 49ers QB Pension Plan

I hate to be a negative Nancy, but all these are terrible and zero funny.

How about just a simple "Super Bowl or bust"

Unrelated-- It's the 50 year anniversary of the 1969 season we won (the January 1970 SB).

We've been suggesting thread title changes for years now, so don't feel bad about bringing progress to a screeching halt.

Any thread title w/o Mahomes is fail.

O line needs to protect our boy he is getting killed

In other news watkins looks ****in unbelievable he has never looked this good with us. Please stay healthy

I don’t think frank Clark did anything the entire first half

Andy Reid is bad at every aspect of coaching other than designing plays. Someone tell me why I'm wrong.

His players love him. He's good with young QBs.

All I got.

Even though moral victories are hard to enjoy, we did come within a couple plays of beating Green Bay last night. They're a very good team. Rodgers showed you a couple of throws last night that illustrate why Mahomes is called "the next Rodgers". And hopefully within a couple of weeks we will be replacing a guy that wasn't even in the league this off-season with our reigning MVP.

I am very happy with Reid. He never could get over the hump with Alex Smith. Last year I felt like he got over the hump of not blowing a lead in the first playoff game, so now you have to climb the mountain known as dethroning the Patriots. Father Time is gonna help you out with that one eventually, but in the mean time if we can get our players to buy in to the virtues of not lining up offsides, we'll be just fine. We made it to within a play or two of the Super Bowl with last year's defense.

Even though this year's D hasn't looked all that much better, it should be enough to give us a chance. Now, if you have a healthy Mahomes with this crew, and some team comes to Arrowhead and beats us by only scoring field goals, then I might entertain ideas about Reid.

But until then:
1. I like him. He's always good at the podium. He always handles himself with class.
2. I don't feel that the AFC West is going to be fiercely contested.
3. We should still have a decent shot at the 2 seed in the AFC overall (realistically I don't see the 1 seed being for sale)
4. Who do you want to replace him with?

He's the Philip Rivers of coaches. He's better than just about anything else you can get, but he's probably not going to win you a superbowl.

I feel pretty comfortable though knowing Mahomes would never let Reid punt there, and Mahomes also has a better feel for when to call TOs.

Whenever the Chiefs play a good team, they're always within a play or two of winning, but they rarely win. And usually it's because of bad clock management and bad fundamentals. Kelce is the only receiver who ever seems to know where the first down marker is, penalties are always a problem, and you seem the same people week after week and year after year who don't protect the ball.

Shady hasn't really been a fumbler - which is surprising the way he carries the ball.

But his two recent fumbles have both been back-breakers.

I think after the DET game (where we fumbled like 6 times or something) Bienemy instituted a rule that if you fumble you're benched for the rest of the game. Shady's the only one who's fumbled since then and he hasn't seen the field afterwards either time.

Well except Mahomes ldo.

After last night's game, I'm feeling a little better about this team.

I expected to lose to Green Bay, but we were much more competitive than I thought we'd be. I thought the defense played well overall, and that was with a bunch of starters out. The offense was fine after a slow start. The line did well and Moore was serviceable.

I thought Andy had a good gameplan, but punting it late was a huge mistake. How do you give it back to one of the greatest qbs of all time with the game on the line? If you have a good defense, that makes the decision tougher, but Andy never seems to learn from these situations.

Having to play without Mahomes for a couple of games might make this team better in the long run. Everyone else is having to elevate their play to remain competitive. Hopefully this effort will be there when Pat returns.

I dunno, I feel like the end of the Packers game where Reid punted just shows that as long as he's coach any championship (AFC or super bowl) will be won in spite of him and not because of him.

Maybe I'm over-reacting, but punting it in that situation was such an obvious bad move and so clearly shows he'll never coach this team to its potential.

Yeah, what makes it bad is that it's not an isolated incident. Something that got totally overlooked with the Mahomes injury is that Reid went for it on fourth down, got it, and then kicked a field goal from the 1 yard line. You don't even need to be able to calculate the EV for those plays to recognize that they can't both be correct decisions. When I see that, it tells me he doesn't even have a framework for doing analysis. He's just clicking buttons. His explanation to the press about punting was a bunch of mumbo-jumbo about "momentum."

Mahomes will tell him we're going for it in those spots. I'm 100% confident.

This seems like a results oriented take. The ball was downed around the two yard line. Packers pretty much had to run the ball. Thinking that the Chiefs D could stop the Packers running game from that field position seems reasonable. Admittedly Packers OL did one helluva job but you have to play the percentages there. Against a lesser OL the Chiefs get the ball back around to 50 or closer with 4 minutes left.

The ball was downed from the 2 yard line AFTER Reid decided to punt. It was just good luck we got that as the field position for Green Bay.

THATS results oriented thinking.

And to top it off, we got zero stops as they ran out the clock.

Double and, and correct me if I'm wrong, but prior to our punt, their last play from scrimmage was a three yard pass that went for 67 yards.

So pardon me for thinking maybe not put the game in the hands of our defense (and to be clear, the game would only START with the defense- even if they did their job the offense would still have to convert).

GB had 8 possessions aside from the one where time ran out in the first half, and they scored on 6 of them. And not only do the Chiefs need to get a stop on defense, but they pretty much need it to be a three and out to ensure there's enough time left for a backup QB with questionable arm strength to drive the length of the field (and the time that's lost even on a three and out is not trivial -- two runs plus an incomplete pass can still eat up around 40% of the remaining clock). There's just no way the chance of a defensive success there is greater than the chance of converting 4th and 3. Plus, if your defense IS capable of a three and out, then that means that you can turn it over on downs and still get the ball back if you can fade a 50+ yard field goal attempt, so there's still some equity to salvage there.

No comments on yesterday's debacle ?

I had a friend that went to it. Ouch.

Kick returner is trying to put his gloves on while the ball is in the air.

Kick returner makes a fair catch at the 3.

Field goal gets blocked and the guy brags afterwards that he could do it because they never varied their snap cadence.

Holder for placekicks has nfi what to do on an aborted play.

Lots of blame to go around for this loss.

Defense can't get a stop late in the game.

Offense can't sustain a drive to run out the clock.

Dropped balls all over the place.

6 fg attempted. For such a potent offense, that's a lot of drives stalled at the end.

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At least this year the Chiefs have abandoned their strategy of only using prevent defense for the rest of the game upon achieving a 15 point lead. But the problem won't be solved until they also abandon their strategy of never attempting a pass beyond the line of scrimmage for the rest of the game after getting a 15 point lead.