judging by that article saying the bills wanted a tackle and a 2nd rounder and ended up getting a 4th??? idk its credibility.

but isnt the trade deadline done after week 6? so wouldnt the move have to be made before week 6?

i guess if they wanted a shorter term investment williams is better than lynch, not sure if CAR is zone blocking or buf is man blocking scheme as those are hard to change from over night.

but hte kid is 27, and we all know what happens after 28

personally im ok w/ TT but that might be a product of the talent he inherited. that said seeing how he likes younger players i dont understand (again if its a blocking scheme thing then i totally do) williams > lynch. you gotta figure williams will take at least a 2nd if not a first, and youd use one of those as a RB w/ grants injury in bjax ineffectiveness, so youd get ~4years younger w/ draft pickh than DJW, but but only lose 1 yr on lynch

also, i havent seen that on ESPN insider--and i thought they had some of th ebetter sources

Idk if it's credible either, but as I said earlier in the thread, the Bills were definitely asking for a 2nd and a starting O lineman. That part was confirmed. They finally realized they weren't going to get anything close to that.

Williams for a 1st round pick should be a no-brainer. You don't know what you're going to get from rookies. Lynch was a early-mid 1st round pick. Plus the Packers first round pick should be in the mid 20's worst case scenario, so at that point you may only get the 2nd or 3rd best player at the position you want.

insta ship the 1st TT, DeAngelo is an elite back. You are going to draft a better running back like 5% of the time.

i cant imagine trading a first rounder for any running back.

we dont need a better running back than williams, or even someone with his skill. this isnt a running team, we just need someone decent back there. and i think we need to address our o line way before we address our running back situation.

while its true, you can still find instant starters/upgrades in the 2nd and 3rd round for Ts and even later for Gs. bulaga ( i still only refer to him as baluga ever since draft day) will fill in for clifton and wed still draft another T in the 2nd or 3rd rd.

even tho they were projects for the first few years i believe clifton and tausch were 6th and 7th round picks

the point of the chatter area man, is that some view the window to win a superbowl as peaking now, and much like the vikings wed be going after it.

tbh i dont know if williams is worth a 1st rounder, hes 27, but at the same time hes been time shared, so maybe hes like 25?!

Exactly this. Yes we haven't gotten many good runs off but how many of them were just DOA from the start? I don't care who we have if we don't start blocking half our runs are going to go for like -2 yards anyway. This team kind of reminds me of the '08 Cards but with a better defense. We don't really need an elite back, we need blockers. "Playmaking" RBs are very nice but being able to constantly get 2-3 yard runs is really all this team needs at the moment.

1st+2nd for Car's 2nd + DAW? Basically a 2nd + letting Carolina move up 5-10 spots.

Williams would be an awesome pickup, but the high draft picks are going to be huge, especially since we're going to need Corner(s) soon, and there's usually a pretty good/safe one around the end of the 1st. (wish we had Flowers instead of Jordy.)

the kicker of this is that james jones is being held aroudn as trade bait for DJW along w/ picks, so well have to rely more on jordy

im confused about this. we have one of the youngest teams in football, most of our age is on the offensive line, thats it. we have a really young qb who will be with us for a long time barring injury. our window to a win a superbowl is until rodgers is forced into retirement or retires himself. all hail ted thompson!

11-09-2009, 10:34 AM

Jordy's not bad, it's just brutal to end up with him when every mock had us taking Flowers, Flowers was there for us when we traded down, and Flowers is now awesome in KC.

lol

agree w/this.

Williams isn't quite his age because he's only had 1 season out of 4 w/ > 250 carries. But still I think that 1st round pick is huge for another lineman or a CB. I would rather see the Packers call up NE and overpay for Mankins than trade a 1st rounder away for Williams.

disagree w/you and everyone who thinks McCarthy needs to go. I don't think McCarthy is the best coach, but he's not close to the bottom of the league either.

"The Green Bay Press-Gazette reports that the Green Bay Packers were actively trying to deal for Buffalo Bills running back Marshawn Lynch, before the Bills sent him to the Seattle Seahawks. Perhaps the fourth-round pick the Seahawks gave up was too rich for the Packers' blood.

However, it is logical to think that the Pack might still be looking for a No. 1 back to replace the injured Ryan Grant, which can only lead to one thing: speculation! Matt Vensel of the Baltimore Sun offers some up, mentioning the Baltimore Ravens' Willis McGahee as one option, and DeAngelo Williams of the Carolina Panthers as another.

McGahee has been on and off the trading block since the summer, but might not be the best fit for Green Bay, as the team is looking for more of an every-down back. Williams would certainly be worth looking into if you're the Packers, but Carolina would have to be willing to deal him first. Of course, the Panthers are in rebuilding mode now with Jimmy Clausen in at quarterback, and do have Jonathan Stewart and Mike Goodson at the running back position, so trading Williams for some draft picks could be an appealing option.

We'll see if the Pack continues to search for an answer at RB."


going after Willis McGahee and Deangelo Williams according to espn insider

ugh, please not McGahee. I was happy when Seattle picked up Lynch, ever since I heard the rumor about DeAngelo, I will be disappointed with anything less...

Barnett down for the season---Chillar to possibly follow.

Please no McGahee.

Fail on the injuries.

Nick Barnett, LB Wrist Did Not Participate
Morgan Burnett, S Knee Out
Brandon Chillar, LB Shoulder Did Not Participate
Chad Clifton, T Knee Did Not Participate
Nick Collins, S Knee Did Not Participate
Cullen Jenkins, DE Hand Full Participation
Quinn Johnson, FB Glute Did Not Participate
Derrick Martin, S Ankle Full Participation
Charlie Peprah, S Quadricep Full Participation
Sam Shields, CB Calf Did Not Participate
Mark Tauscher, T Shoulder Did Not Participate
Charles Woodson, CB Toe Did Not Participate

Collins not likely to play Sunday. Man I really thought this was the year.

Damn, does anyone run worse than the Packers, when it comes to injuries?

I dunno I thought the Pats ran pretty bad in 08

when i said forced into retirement i meant through injury as well.
i tried to take that stance last year, and i still dont disagree with it, but mccarthy doesnt discipline this team as seen..well, every week. his clock management skills are very poor as we always see in close games...i dunno...i think we can do better.



as far as mcgahee is concerned, i doubt we have to give up much for him and he does excellent end zone dances...so...win win really.

glad im not hte only one who screams at the TV about his clock management

shoot, during the bears game my neighbor's said they could hear me!!!

chilly could teach him a thing or two about challenges as well.

Yeah I disagree with the notion that our window is peaking. This team is built to win for years to come, along with this year. 5 starters on our team are "aging": Woodson, Driver, Clifton, Tauscher, and Harris.

Woodson has looked better than ever, and when he does slow down, he can be a productive safety. Driver is in amazing physical shape, and he plans on playing 2 more years following this season. Clifton and Tauscher aren't exactly studs anymore. We already have Bulaga in place to replace Clifton, and it's pretty likely whoever takes over for Tauscher will be an upgrade. And Harris, who may already be done, can be replaced as well. We have 3 young corners (Shields, Underwood, Williams). Williams is playing at a pro-bowl level so far this year. Shields definitely has a future. Underwood is pretty up in the air imo. Even so, we'll probably end up drafting 1-2 DBs next year.

So with that said, I think the super bowl window will be open for at least 5 years.

totally forgot that in my anti mccarthy post...jesus. someone should take the red flags away from him and give them to...i dont know, anyone but him. is he confused about the rules? blind? or is the guy upstairs too busy drooling all over his idiot self to provide mccarthy with the right info? whatevers happening its disgraceful.

agree with all of this except the bolded part, cause as i said earlier, i believe the window is as long as we can keep rodgers playing at a high level.