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11-17-2013 , 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nit3.runn3r
Fire big Mike? And hire who?
Trestman.







Oh....
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11-17-2013 , 07:08 PM
The whole "and hire who?" is flawed, beyond the grammatical error of 'who' instead of 'whom'.

Hire someone better after firing McCarthy, obv. Pretty much no one fires a coach knowing the next HC. Just do it when the coach is more a liability than an asset and work to replace the liability with an asset. Don't play dumb on this.
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11-17-2013 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by horrorshow83
The whole "and hire who?" is flawed, beyond the grammatical error of 'who' instead of 'whom'.

Hire someone better after firing McCarthy, obv. Pretty much no one fires a coach knowing the next HC. Just do it when the coach is more a liability than an asset and work to replace the liability with an asset. Don't play dumb on this.
And yet you do... idgaf about who or whom. Super bowl or bust? Teams would be lining up to hire McCarthy. Sorry, you can't fire the winningest coach in your team's history, a super bowl victory, 15-1 season, loaded with young talent, the best qb in the game and not have AT LEAST a potential hof coach lined up. Cmon man. Don't play dumb on this.

Ps- gtfo
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11-17-2013 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by horrorshow83
Trestman.







Oh....
Trestman is a good coach/oc so far... but the bears are still 6-4 and might not even make the playoffs. Let me guess, you were also claiming chip kelly goat before he even coached a game?
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11-17-2013 , 07:25 PM
And that'll be it. 3rd straight loss without Rodgers. They probably win all 3 with him and are playing for HFA. Like I said last week, their only chance to win a game without Rodgers is next week vs Minnesota. The Vikings are one of the few teams in the league with a worse QB than Tolzien. Lions did lose today which offers some hope. A win vs Minny and then Rodgers returning on Thanksgiving is their last chance.
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11-17-2013 , 07:30 PM
Yep. Lions game or bust now. I'm all in on firing Capers asap.
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11-17-2013 , 07:53 PM
Capers has a pretty nice track record, hard to fire him and keep mm.
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11-17-2013 , 08:00 PM
Capers has a nice track record???? He has fielded a completely awful defense the last three years.
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11-17-2013 , 08:09 PM
Capers has to go. He should have went last year after they were completely unprepared for Colin Kaepernick. The secondary gets gouged nearly every game. They just got their 4th INT in today's game. Rodgers masks the problems on defense because he can sustain drives and win shootouts. They have a chance to beat Minny without Rodgers but not Detroit. They'll have to beat Detroit in a shootout because there's no way they'll stop Calvin.
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11-17-2013 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by nit3.runn3r
And yet you do... idgaf about who or whom. Super bowl or bust? Teams would be lining up to hire McCarthy. Sorry, you can't fire the winningest coach in your team's history, a super bowl victory, 15-1 season, loaded with young talent, the best qb in the game and not have AT LEAST a potential hof coach lined up. Cmon man. Don't play dumb on this.

Ps- gtfo
At least? Is McCarthy potential HOF? Like legit?

This talent grouping is actually the optimal situation for bringing in a non-idiot. McCarthy isn't exactly creating something out of nothing all these years. Again, he's a liability, so he needs to be replaced by an asset.

Your posting is exceptionally bad in every thread today. Just take a sabbatical.
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11-17-2013 , 09:36 PM
McCarthy is not a hof coach. But he's a top ten coach in the league right now. Thanks for stalking me. Loser. Take a sabbatical from life.
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11-17-2013 , 09:52 PM






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11-17-2013 , 11:24 PM
nit runner , you are garbage. and so is mccarthy
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11-17-2013 , 11:39 PM
Lol. How so?
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11-18-2013 , 11:32 AM
lol at mccarthy being a top 10 coach
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11-18-2013 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by nit3.runn3r
McCarthy is not a hof coach. But he's a top ten coach in the league right now.






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11-18-2013 , 01:37 PM
Obama sucks. McCarthy stays. Fire Capers. Hire an offensive coordinator. Done.
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11-18-2013 , 09:55 PM
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Lol. How so?
I don't even know where to begin.

how about you start by ranking McCarthy's attributes as a head coach (and note how each compares to league average)? we are so many light years apart when it comes to this clown that this is likely to be pointless but at the very minimum it will be mildly entertaining to see casual fan's perspective

off the top of my head, here are some attributes to be ranked:
-in-game management (clock management, challenge usage, etc.)
-offensive gameplanning and strategy (this is often the OC's responsibility but because Cheddar is an 'offensive' coach we list this as well)
-talent development
-performance maximization (motivation, speeches, WIM, etc.)

there must be a few others because he patently blows **** at those listed above and you seem to think he's in the upper quartile so I would love to hear them. NOTE: "going 15-1", "winning a superbowl", and "likes Cheddar Chilli" are NOT attributes. please do not bring them up.

I seriously don't see anything he does that is even slightly competent (save for some well drawn up offensive plays and maybe crediting him for some of Rodger's stellar development). The worst part is, his terribleness extends even beyond being bad at those listed attributes. for example, there's not many coaches who would have that clout to tell Rodgers to stop running around and putting himself at risk (the actual hit he took is not a great example, but there are millions of them), but it's a damn fact that Mike McCarthy is not one of them. That's a problem.

this has been a year of evolution in the NFL and we are beginning to see coaches that are willing to flexibly use their brains (Trestman, Chud, Chip Kelly). I can't blame Mccarthy for this lack of flexibility because it's likely he's just plain dumb, but that doesn't change the fact that he shouldn't be the head coach.
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11-18-2013 , 10:04 PM
I didn't even read what you wrote. Not worth it. You're as much of a GM than I am. Who cares? Try to enjoy the rest of this ****ty season.
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11-18-2013 , 10:10 PM
meh. at least your posting history checks out
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11-18-2013 , 10:15 PM
Fat Mike might be pretty good at talent development and motivation. The locker room culture for sure seems quite good, have to give him credit for that.
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11-18-2013 , 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SenorKeeed
Fat Mike might be pretty good at talent development and motivation. The locker room culture for sure seems quite good, have to give him credit for that.
Can't really comment on where credit ought to be distributed for talent development but I wouldn't argue team morale as any problem.

Problem with ever having him around to manage personalities is that he has a hand in game planning.
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11-19-2013 , 12:47 AM
McCarthy is very good at developing his offensive players. He also seems to foster a pretty solid locker room/team cohesiveness/whatever you want to call it.

I've questioned a lot of his in-game coaching, but from a pure play calling perspective (I'm not talking about time management right now), I feel like he's actually done very well during this Rodgerless losing streak. That the team has actually been in these games with the likes of Wallace and Tolzien at the helm (in addition to other injuries) is pretty impressive. They've gained yards, too, just haven't been able to get the ball in the endzone. There have been some questionable play calls, sure, but overall, I think McCarthy has called a good offense, given what he has to deal with right now.
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11-19-2013 , 01:51 AM
The whole team is based on drafting and development so McCarthy is very good at developing players that Thompson drafts for him. On the offensive side of the ball anyway.

I do think he should stay as coach, Capers has to go and McCarthy should give up his playcalling duties. He focuses too much on balance instead of going with what's working at the time. There's no way McCarthy gets fired with Rodgers going down. Take away any elite QB like Rodgers, Manning, Brees and the team goes downhill fast, there's only so much you can do with Scott Tolzien and Seneca Wallace.
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11-19-2013 , 03:08 AM
I can definitely see a legitimate argument being made for McCarthy being a top-10 coach in the league, but that is more of a reflection of just how bad all the other coaches in the league are as opposed to being representative of any talent McCarthy might have (which he is clearly lacking in a few key areas). It should be easy to replace him with someone better but they way NFL teams currently work the odds are not really in our favor either. I'll definitely take McCarthy over Rhodes or Sherman.

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