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09-07-2017 , 11:03 AM
12-4
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09-07-2017 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DWetzel
The defense is gonna be terrible, it's just up to scoring a bunch of points, which means the OL needs to be good. Maybe I'm an idiot but I think they have a chance to be good.
The Lions Defense has been good for half (3/4ths?) of a season in memory --- possibly lifetime?
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09-08-2017 , 08:12 AM
The 2011 and 2014 defenses were OK.

The defense is a bit of a wildcard because of how young it is. A few breakout perfomances by some newer players (Davis, Worrilow, Zettel, Killebrew, Robinson, Tabor) could really turn things around. Does Ziggy return to 2015 form?

All that uncertainty makes them a tough team to handicap, especially since you never know which Stafford is going to show up? Do we get 2011 & 2016 Stafford? Or first half of 2015 benched for Orlovsky Stafford? How dire is the LT situation? Do Lang and Wagner live up to their contracts? Do they finally find a respectable running game for the first time since James Stewart?

I can't wait for Sunday though. Let's go!!!!
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09-08-2017 , 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TheHip41
12-4
Im going with this too. This is the year it all comes together.

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09-10-2017 , 01:18 PM
Welp
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09-10-2017 , 01:40 PM
Jesus tap dancing christ
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09-10-2017 , 04:26 PM
YYGYYYEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH

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09-10-2017 , 04:42 PM
the three posts above seem like a great summary of the game
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09-10-2017 , 05:41 PM
Where to even start?

The good:

How about that defense? I'm not sure how much credit was our D vs. an obviousley over the hill Palmer, but that was an impressive display from a group that people here are acting like was the worst in the NFL. Despite our backup punter handing the Cards the football on the 7 yard line, they got no offensive TD's in the first half.

Golden Tate also deserves an early mention here. Golladay is going to get all the 'attaboys for his sick TD catches, but Tate kept the offense moving in a way that set those up. He gets the game ball from me due to his tireless work ethic catching tough passes across the middle and keeping drives moving. He's been the best free agent acquisition they've ever made.

Now on to Golladay. Admit it. It felt like you were watching #81 out there, stretching the field, and laying out for a diving TD catch. Stafford has a big target to work with now, and picking this guy up in the 3rd round was an absolute steal.

The 2nd year players stepped up big time in this one. Robinson and Zettel on the D-Line were critical pieces of keeping the Cardinals running game at bay. Glasgow did a good job in pass protection. Killebrew did some nice work on defense, capped off by a gift wrapped pick 6. Rudock only had one miscue taking over as the starting holder with 2 minutes practice.

The bad:

It wasn't all great. The first quarter was pretty SOL. Stafford intentional grounding on a 3 and out. Washington is an idiot and very likely lost his KR job with a boneheaded decision. Our back up punter dropped a punt, and despite a window to recover and get the kick off, he runs it, and gets hurt when he inevitably gets flattened. I thought kicking a PAT after the first TD was a questionable decision with no holder. The running game was still pretty anemic, but they were able to ice the game when it came down to it.

The rookie watch:

Jarrad Davis - Some good, some bad. A couple penalties and at least one missed tackle. Best case scenario is we get a Levy in his prime type of guy here. He's got a ways to go. MLB is a tough position, but I still think he has a lot of first round potential.

Tabor - Dude couldn't even crack the starting 46 man roster. 2nd round picks are expected to start or at least work special teams or backup duties. He needs to develop and fast or this is another 2nd round bust.

Golladay - Obviously the hero of the day. I have no idea how he slipped to the 3rd round with his size, speed, and hands combination, but this kid can play. Defenses have a lot of adjustments to do.

Agnew - Did a great job returning punts. Solid late round pickup.

Ledbetter - Got some key minutes and was part of a nice overall defensive effort.

I'm a bit disappointed we didn't see more Michael Roberts, or TE play in general. The offense was overall a bit too one-dimensional. A win is a win, but unless other parts of the offense start to developing I'm worried about a second half of the season drop off after opposing teams figure them.

Overall great game, and hopefully some of the defense critics have been silenced for a week. Go Lions!
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09-10-2017 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Koss
I'll make a bold stupid prediction. Zettel has an absolute breakout performance this year. Kerry Hyder who? I expect them to use Whitehead in Blitz packages too, but front 4 pressure is important, and it was certainly lacking last year.
It's only been one game but this one isn't looking all that stupid.
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09-10-2017 , 06:07 PM
Let's GO boys
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09-10-2017 , 06:52 PM
WOAT special teams play and still won easily. 9-7
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09-10-2017 , 08:49 PM
Punter refusing to kick the ball was some serious WHAT THE ****
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09-10-2017 , 09:07 PM
Team is good. Defense played very well today. Stafford looked great in the last 3 quarters.

Our schedule is rough but we're gonna be competitive this season. Prob looking at 8-8 to 10-6 because besides Cleveland there aren't easy wins on the schedule. But this team is gonna be good if the defense keeps that form all year.
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09-10-2017 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by thedeezy
Punter refusing to kick the ball was some serious WHAT THE ****
Lol I cant help but feel bad for redfern. You spend 4 years bouncing around practice squads trying to earn a spot. The Lions star punter gets hurt, you do well in preseason, and finally make the team. You get six games to show your stuff to other NFL teams that might be looking for a new punter. On your first career punt, you fumble the snap, panic on the recovery, try to run for it, and get walloped by a mountain of a man, and suffer a serious leg injury. Your NFL career is likely over.

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09-11-2017 , 09:30 PM
And it's confirmed, Redfern blew out his knee. I guess if you had to pick a position to end up down to your 3rd string, you'd go with punter.
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09-11-2017 , 09:38 PM
Maybe catch the punt next time
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09-18-2017 , 01:38 PM
RIP Eli Mannings career. 9/12/04 - 9/18/17.

The rejuvenated Lions defense is going to embarass him on a national stage tonight.

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09-18-2017 , 08:00 PM
detroit 24 nyg 10

Also, to get it on the record, the lions first pick of the 2018 draft will be a RB.

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09-19-2017 , 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Koss
detroit 24 nyg 10
wp wp

secondary is quietly awesome. we already know slay and quin are legit but diggs had a game and killebrew looks nice.

would never guess lions win by 14 with stafford only throwing for 125. also, F OBJ for that hit in the back that injured Davis.

litmus test this sunday vs falcons however.
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09-19-2017 , 01:50 AM
Wasnt following the mnf thread. Sure looked like a pass attempt on the stafford fumble. Anyone else think so?

Feels good man. 12-4. He we come.
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09-19-2017 , 04:50 AM
The new road jerseys are ****ing sweet !
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09-19-2017 , 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by squashington
wp wp
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.* Although I do feel like I handicap this team at an above average clip.* Maybe I should see how I do ATS the rest of the season.**


This weeks mission was to convincingly beat a below average team on the road.* No more cardiac kitties needing 4th quarter heroics to win a game where the outcome was ever in questions. The NYG defense is top 10, but the offense moved at the right efficiency and avoided enough critical mistakes to keep the game out of reach.* Mission accomplished.*


I don't know the last time I've seen this team play this complete of a game on the road.* While they need to do this with more consistency, this was definitely a good sign.* The best part was no more bend but don't break defense BS.* This is two games in a row where the defense put the hammer down, pressuring the QB, batting down passes, killing drives, and forcing turnovers.* Ansah gets the game ball with 3 sacks, although at this point if you just look at Eli wrong he hits the turf.* Credit the improved secondary and LB's for doing just well enough in coverage for the D-Line to get the job done.**


My earlier comment on the Lions drafting a RB first next year is based on my assumption that Abdullah struggles this year.* 5.1 YPC against one of the top run D's is nothing to scoff at.* He needs to be a big play threat at RB, and he made a couple big plays when needed, so I hope I'm wrong on this one.* It's weird seeing Stafford's game totals looking like an average game for Calvin Johnson (122 yards, 2 TDs).* I'll take it every day over previous years of 350 yards and 3 TDs in a loss.* The run game got the job done here.*


Prater's FG gets the lol of the game.* That's a once in a lifetime bounce.* The only surprising thing was that from 56 yards he couldn't clear the crossbar cleanly.**


The rookie watch:*


Jarrad Davis had another decent game before leaving due to a concussion caused by dirty POS Beckham Jr.* Hopefully he doesn't miss much time, but it seems even mild concussions these days are taking 2 to 3 weeks to recover from.* Next man up I guess.**


Tabor rides the pine again.* It's hard to argue with this move with Slay, Lawson, Diggs, and Hayden all playing quite well.* I know it's a tough position for rookies,* Lawson and Hayden are on expiring contracts, but it's tough seeing a second round pick not play.* I've heard comparisons to Slay not being effective as a rookie but I don't 100% buy the comparison.* Slay was a combine hero who needed to hone his skills.* Tabor was a step slower than his contemporaries, but the expectation was he was refined enough as a DB to justify the high selection.* It's unlikely we see much of him this year unless injuries take over, or he starts progressing in practices.*


Golladay was a non-factor, as was almost every receiver.* Stafford has so many weapons to work with, that he's not going to light up the box score every game.* I still like where he fits in to this offense.*


Jalen Reeves-Maybin was the next man up when Davis went down.* One positive of the Davis injury is it might give Jalen enough playing time to try and take some minutes from Whitehead later, whose blown coverage lead to the Giants lone TD.**


Michael Roberts still appears to be the 3rd string TE, so no significant minutes from him.* I look to see if he works his way up to a bigger role later in the year.**


Jamal Agnew has been fantastic as a return man.* I'll be surprised if that's his only TD this year.* Hopefully he gets the KR job as well.**


Ledbetter continues to get some work in the D-Line rotation.* No major issues here.**


Through two games it's looking like at least an average draft from Quinn, and could end up being a fantastic one if one or two more guys develops into a key player.**


So next week is the real test.* Atlanta is an elite team.* The one unanswered question at this point is if Detroit has turned the corner into a team that can go deep in the post-season, or is still a wild card team that can't run with the big boys.* The mission here is to keep it competitive and not let Atlanta run away with it.* *If they can go toe to toe with Atlanta, their SB equity will jump substantially.* A win would be great, but at this point I'd be happy with the knowledge that the Lions are finally a legit top ten team.* ATL 30, DET 27.**
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09-19-2017 , 09:24 AM
holy crap, I never envisioned we'd win the first 2 games in this fashion
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09-19-2017 , 10:47 AM
I'm drinking the kool-aid. 13-3 Stafford for mvp lets go. A healthy Ziggy is such a diff maker.
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