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Old 12-05-2018, 02:47 PM   #12851
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Re: Detroit Lions: Bob the Builder

If we can move him for a 1st round pick this off season, cap hit be damned, they need to do it. 2019 will be an audition from Fromm/Tua to see who we select #1 overall.
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Old 12-07-2018, 02:03 PM   #12852
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Re: Detroit Lions: Bob the Builder

Stafford is already better than the average first round pick. The last "sure thing" first rounder was Andrew Luck, who at this point in his career is at best a marginal improvement over Stafford when healthy. There are teams that are in desperate need of any QB talent, and the Lions aren't one of them. They will be better off drafting a 2nd+ rounder to develop as a backup if Stafford can't return to his previous form.

In funnier news, Calvin Johnson was just denied a permit to start a grow operation in Michigan, over what sounds like some pretty BS reasons. From what I had heard, his regular enjoyment of the devil's lettuce, along with the financial hit he would have to take to shore up the contract he left on, were the main reasons he stayed retired despite getting the itch to return. I'm hoping the state comes to their senses and lets him get in on this new industry and keeps him in Michigan.

For you hopeless saps like me, Pride of Detroit has an article listing all the things needed for the Lions to still make the playoffs. Apparently the 4-8 chargers snuck into the Playoffs 10 years ago, so all hope is not lost.
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Old 12-07-2018, 02:11 PM   #12853
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Re: Detroit Lions: Bob the Builder

So we have just as good a chance to playoff as to get the #1 overall pick.

That feels about right!
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Old 12-08-2018, 06:40 PM   #12854
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Stafford is already better than the average first round pick. The last "sure thing" first rounder was Andrew Luck, who at this point in his career is at best a marginal improvement over Stafford when healthy. There are teams that are in desperate need of any QB talent, and the Lions aren't one of them. They will be better off drafting a 2nd+ rounder to develop as a backup if Stafford can't return to his previous form.

In funnier news, Calvin Johnson was just denied a permit to start a grow operation in Michigan, over what sounds like some pretty BS reasons. From what I had heard, his regular enjoyment of the devil's lettuce, along with the financial hit he would have to take to shore up the contract he left on, were the main reasons he stayed retired despite getting the itch to return. I'm hoping the state comes to their senses and lets him get in on this new industry and keeps him in Michigan.

For you hopeless saps like me, Pride of Detroit has an article listing all the things needed for the Lions to still make the playoffs. Apparently the 4-8 chargers snuck into the Playoffs 10 years ago, so all hope is not lost.
What the *** is all this trash? Luck only Marginally better than Stafford? I think you've been hitting the lettuce a little too hard.

There's 5 other QBs who have been with their teams at least 10 seasons like Stafford..... the other 5 all have MINIMUM 4 playoff wins. Stafford has zero. It's hilarious that there are cucks still amongst this fanbase protecting him still, making excuses, thinking he still might be the answer.

Tomorrow is the most important game for our franchise in a LONG long time. If we lose, we slide into the #4 draft position, with a showdown with Buffalo the following week. If we win, we can fall all the way down to the 13th pick if things don't go our way.

There aren't enough words to describe how insanely bad we need to lose this game.
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Old 12-08-2018, 06:42 PM   #12855
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Re: Detroit Lions: Bob the Builder

****ing guy is in here posting playoff probabilities at 4-8 loooooooooooooooooooool

Matt "UHMMMMMMM" Stafford needs to go, sooner the better.
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Old 12-09-2018, 02:07 AM   #12856
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Re: Detroit Lions: Bob the Builder

Yeah, sorry for being a homer and rooting for this team in a down year. As fans we clearly have different desires for this team, whatever.

As for the Luck vs. Stafford comparison, I stand by it. You can get hung up on the QB wins "stat" if you want. I get it, but as for the rest:

Luck TD/INT 164/80. Stafford 234/129.
Rating 89.1 to 88.4
Both are at 7.15 per attempt.

On paper they are like the same QB. Honestly, flip a coin, I'd take either one.

Of those other 5 (I count 6) QB's to play for 10 years, 3 of them are already among the conversations of the best to play all time (Brady, Brees, Rodgers). There are 3 others who are likely hall of famers. (Big Ben, Eli, Rivers). Eli and Ben are only there because they each have 2 superbowls. On paper, they are in the same league as Stafford there too.

I'm not out here claiming Stafford is the savior of this franchise and going to lead them to the promised land. He clearly hasn't lived up to the hype we hoped for after his first 3 years. But he is better than the average first round draft pick. If you were going to try and win a Super Bowl in the next couple years, I would much rather start with Stafford than go into the draft hoping to hit it big.
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Old 12-09-2018, 09:11 AM   #12857
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Re: Detroit Lions: Bob the Builder

Iím also on the loss all year train now


Iíve read the last few post and here is my response.



Luck. Infinity >

Stafford
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:58 AM   #12858
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Even mentioning Luck in the same sentence as. Stafford is such disrespect. See what i did that? That well timed period.

koss.....Stafford makes 27 ****in mill dude... There's a formula here to winning. Get a young QB on a rookie deal, and you have a great chance in his first 4-5 years of winning it all if he's legit, because you have so much extra money to funnel to other positions.

We gotta sit here and watch this dopey, country boy, awww shucks routine from him after every loss. **** out of here.
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Old 12-09-2018, 11:40 PM   #12859
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Another week. Another L for the club.
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Old 12-10-2018, 05:22 AM   #12860
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Yeah, sorry for being a homer and rooting for this team in a down year. As fans we clearly have different desires for this team, whatever.
You don't have to be a level zero fan tho. You're not 8 years old anymore.
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Old 12-10-2018, 08:40 AM   #12861
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koss.....Stafford makes 27 ****in mill dude... There's a formula here to winning. Get a young QB on a rookie deal, and you have a great chance in his first 4-5 years of winning it all if he's legit, because you have so much extra money to funnel to other positions.
So what's your point? The way Stafford's contract is structured, even if they move him he counts as a heavy hit against their cap for 2 more years. So all that "extra" money you save by having a rookie QB is wasted as dead cap space. If you draft one this year you've wasted two years of your 4 year rookie QB window. That also assumes you hit on a young QB. 1st round draft picks have about a 50% success rate at best?

I'm also not convinced the problems are all him. For whatever reason they are incapable of running anything that even resembles an NFL offense right now. I can't say for 100% that Patricia has made this offense worse, but it certainly feels that way. JBC was supposed to be a more aggressive play caller favoring a more downfield passing attack, which was largely what their offense looked like the last couple years. Yesterday Stafford threw for 101 yards. Let that number sink in. 101. Many of the plays were designed quick throws and screens to... *checks notes* ... Bruce Ellington. WTF? It's like they've forgotten they have Kenny Golladay on the team. The biggest passing gain on the day was a play that drew a PI call.
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