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Old 01-06-2017, 12:56 PM   #12376
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It's not just the first round bust WR's that were bad in those drafts either, just about every Millen draft, at all levels, was pure AIDS. There were a few diamonds in the rough, but I think I can count all the players Millen drafted that had what could be considered "successful" careers on one hand. What the hell, let's try it.

Calvin
Cliff Avril
Raiola
Backus
Shaun Rogers

Yeah, that seems about it.
Lions wouldve been a better team by not participating at all in the 2002-2006 drafts. To me that is more impressive than going 0-16. Any casual college football viewer couldve hit on a few random names given 35 guesses
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Old 01-06-2017, 01:14 PM   #12377
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Yeah. I feel like the last bit of Millen stench has finally washed off. All the damage he did to the team with 7 years of pretty awful drafts is now in the past and this is 100% a different team. Quinn inherited a lump of mediocrity from Mayhew, but at least he has some talent at key positions to build around. A good offseason and they should worst be slight division underdogs to GB.
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:28 AM   #12378
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Unfortunately it was still an even money bet ($5). It was at work, and the guy was trying to tell me how the Lions always show up on Thanksgiving and not to bet against them. I told him they sucked and Manning owned them. He proposed betting ATS, taking the Lions, and I stupidly said something like "I can do better than 14 points, I'll give you 30!" Predicting that blowout on the record was worth the horrible EV of the bet.

It's not just the first round bust WR's that were bad in those drafts either, just about every Millen draft, at all levels, was pure AIDS. There were a few diamonds in the rough, but I think I can count all the players Millen drafted that had what could be considered "successful" careers on one hand. What the hell, let's try it.

Calvin
Cliff Avril
Raiola
Backus
Shaun Rogers


At least now we appear to have a GM with an eye for talent and are getting acceptable production from all of our draft picks.
Blind luck landed all these players.

I'm going to drink the kool-aid one more time and go with the lions big upset this week. Dont know how were going to do it i just want to believe. Nope not going to bet a dollar on it either. I just WANT it one time.
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Old 01-07-2017, 05:26 AM   #12379
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first game i'm gonna miss in years. (3? 5? 10?)

work circumstance dictates i fill a position i'm horrible at where the game's not being shown while neglecting the role i'm pretty awesome at and the game is being shown.
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Old 01-07-2017, 08:55 AM   #12380
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Anyway to DVR it and isolate yourself from the results until you can watch it? That is how I watch a lot of the games. At a minimum I DVR them and start watching about an hour into them so I can skip commercials and half time.

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Old 01-07-2017, 09:24 PM   #12381
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Lets ****ing GO!

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Old 01-07-2017, 09:52 PM   #12382
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WTF at that 4th down play.....
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Old 01-07-2017, 10:46 PM   #12383
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Looked like a broken play.


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Old 01-07-2017, 11:55 PM   #12384
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Thank god I don't need to watch this trash for eight months. So ****ing depressing.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:08 AM   #12385
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Team sucks and the refs hate us. Prepped for a boring draft and no good free agents.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:28 AM   #12386
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Exactly the game I was expected. Stroked on both lines for 60 minutes.


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Old 01-08-2017, 12:37 AM   #12387
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Team sucks and the refs hate us. Prepped for a boring draft and no good free agents.
Yes but our offseason last year was good. If they do it again they will get better. Got a good buttrape from the refs there but Stafford not good with that finger.

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Old 01-08-2017, 12:44 AM   #12388
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Team sucks. Franchise sucks. We're losers and will always be losers. It's just what we do.
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:49 AM   #12389
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Im really hammered drunk right now. Gonna write a wall of text about this team when I sober up. Short summary is they have some flaws and need some key improvements but overall I am calling this a marginally successful season.

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Old 01-08-2017, 12:49 AM   #12390
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Yes but our offseason last year was good. If they do it again they will get better. Got a good buttrape from the refs there but Stafford not good with that finger.

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Like that positive energy you giving off.

Hopefully the new GM can overcome the teams long term suck. I dont feel confident but hey you never know one day in are lifetime we might be a contender. Maybe.....
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Old 01-08-2017, 12:54 AM   #12391
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Also Ebron sucks hairy donkey balls and is a massive liability. We are probably stuck with him but for every good catch he has he has a key drop. We were a better offense with Pettigrew, or any average tight end.

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Old 01-08-2017, 12:59 AM   #12392
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Lol at any optimism.

This franchise will always suck until the Fords sell the team. Ineptitude starts at the top and creeps down from there.

The owners hire ****ty managers, the managers hire ****ty people, and it snowballs from there.

This team has, does, and always will suck as long as a member of the Ford family is using it as their personal cash cow.
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Old 01-08-2017, 01:04 AM   #12393
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Like that positive energy you giving off.

Hopefully the new GM can overcome the teams long term suck. I dont feel confident but hey you never know one day in are lifetime we might be a contender. Maybe.....
Theo Epstein isn't walking through that door
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Old 01-08-2017, 01:13 AM   #12394
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That was year 3 of martha reign and she shytcanned the front office mid season last year and made a definitely not SOL hire. I really dont feel we have the same inept owners, and Quinn has been solid.

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Old 01-08-2017, 01:21 AM   #12395
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That was year 3 of martha reign and she shytcanned the front office mid season last year and made a definitely not SOL hire. I really dont feel we have the same inept owners, and Quinn has been solid.

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And in her first action as owner, she hired a Team President who said "I don't think I'm qualified to run any other football team, but I think I'm qualified to run this one"

This team and franchise are gonna make the same mistakes over and over. We rode a decent QB and a soft schedule to 9-7 and backed our way into the playoffs. We'll be lucky to be 6-10 next year.
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Old 01-08-2017, 01:28 AM   #12396
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this was definitive proof the nfl fixes its games
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Old 01-08-2017, 01:34 AM   #12397
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this was definitive proof the nfl fixes its games


Game @ DAL in 2013 was way worse than this one.

Produce a half decent football team that people actually want to watch and give the NFL a reason to rig it in your favor. It's not exactly like the NFL treasures the Green Bay Media market. They just realize that people around the country would rather tune in to something other than this slapdick franchise wasting air time every year by being the same pile of mediocre crap year over year.
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:04 AM   #12398
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Come on now.

Sometimes we're way worse than mediocre.
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Old 01-10-2017, 04:33 PM   #12399
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First off, that game was probably the worst they played all year on offense. On defense they were OK for a while, but you could see the eventual collapse coming as the offense kept going 3 and out. They would have struggled to beat the Browns playing like that. The garbage 4th and 1 play was pretty much the low point of the season. They had 3 losing their **** penalties for 45 yards. Sure, the non-facemask call on the PI was bad (I honestly thought the PI call was sketchy too, it was an underthrown ball and Quin had his head turned around, but was inconsequential since the catch was made). But even with a couple calls gone the other way they weren't winning that game.

I've got a lot of thoughts on what this team needs to do. Rather than type out a bible here I'll probably just spew out random posts here and there in this thread. First thing I want to talk about is the run game. Ours is terrible, plain and simple. Losing your #1 & #2 running backs is never good, but their inability to ever move the ball on the ground was pretty bad. Specifically the power run game. You saw GB come out a few times with 3 men in the backfield during a short yardage situation, everyone and their mother knew the run was coming, and they barreled forward for like 4 yards. Part of that is our crap LB core, but those types of plays don't even seem to be in our playbook. Just about every play was with a single back formation. Occasionally they would drop Ebron back there or some crap that isn't fooling anyone. They have a fullback that's doesn't even make the game day roster very often.

For as much as Jim Bob has done to bring some stability to the passing game, the run in his tenure has not been good. I think there's some talent now, especially if Abdullah comes back at 100% and the current o-line, but they seem to be playing below their talent level. I'd seriously consider trying to hire a run-game coordinator. It's not unheard of for teams to have 2 coordinators, one for run one for pass. Or at least bring in some specialist to revitalize the run. I feel like this offense is so close. In my opinion they are just a good run game and a complete TE from being a top 5 offense in the NFL.

Personnel wise I think they are OK at running back. Abdullah has been good, Riddick adds a dynamic element, and Zenner is a capable backup. Washington didn't play very well, quickly losing the #3 job to Zenner when both Abdullah and Riddick went down, but I can't imagine too many teams have a superstar at #4 on the depth chart. Although I wouldn't be too upset if they tried to upgrade at the position in the draft, with this seemingly being a deep draft at RB and gives them a solid #1 & #2, but I don't think it's the biggest of needs. I'd honestly probably look to pick up a 6 foot 220+ power running back in the mid to late rounds or in free agency, someone like a Matt Asiata. Then make a decision on what you do with Michael Burton. Either a FB is an integral part of your running game or you cut him, but right now he's a waste of a spot on the 53-man.


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Old 01-10-2017, 06:45 PM   #12400
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Lions need two LB in this draft.
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