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08-13-2012 , 08:41 PM
Church looks like a totally different guy.

I don't think Okeze Alamale or whatever is going to make the team.

Also, Arkin is totally overmatched.
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08-13-2012 , 08:44 PM
yeah O-line looked pretty AIDSy... was happy initially to see Romo get 2 possessions but want him out now, haha
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08-13-2012 , 08:50 PM
So tired of having dumb ****ers on special teams. HOW ****ing hard is it not to hit the ****ing punter, not lineup offsides or hit someone in the back. Thats literally all i ask from 10 of you dumb mother ****ers and two plays in you've been flagged twice. GOD DAMMIT.

David Arkin is embarrassing. Get Romo out of there before they get him killed. Didn't draft any quality OL to develop and they didn't sign any FA OL worth a damn in the offseason and it shows. Romo will be running for his life once again.

Defense playing well.
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08-13-2012 , 08:59 PM
Oline needs work but keep in mind costa and livings were out. Crawford and Butler are all over the field. Did that 4-3 look early in the game have Connor, Lee, Carter at lb with Spencer and Ware at the ends? If so thats pretty sexy
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08-13-2012 , 10:29 PM
I love cursing at my tv in the first preseason game over stupid penalties that move the chains for the other team. Oye ve.
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08-13-2012 , 10:47 PM
Baraka Atkins can't seem to finish a play

edit: nm

Last edited by Gonso; 08-13-2012 at 10:53 PM.
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08-13-2012 , 11:05 PM
Silva and Church both looked solid. Even Scandrick is turned around looking for the ball. I really like what's I'm seeing in the front 7 and really the entire defense even the young guys.

McGee and Carpenter don't look like NFL QBs and the interior o-line is as advertised. Offense and ST looked really sloppy. Leary, Arkin, etc not NFL ready.
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08-13-2012 , 11:15 PM
Not sure when I turned into Needle but our oline guys getting mauled tilts me beyond belief.

And penalties on 4th down.
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08-14-2012 , 04:53 AM
Try to remember the line isn't quite together yet. I don't think Arkin makes the team and after seeing Leary he might be in rough shape too. Bernadeau just got cleared to return, there's no Livings or Costa. We're in the market for a center and I wouldn't rule out Holland just yet. What does worry me a bit is Doug Free, I really didn't like what I saw.

Felix didn't look very good and was dogging it. I didn't see any good blocking in the backfield at all. Not having Martellus looks like it will hirt us there but we'll see.

The front 7 on defense was very solid and deep-looking, and at this point I don't think Albright or Hamilton clear waivers. Wilber broke his thumb and will be our 4 weeks but we should be able to weather that with our OLBs. Though, Anthony Spencer can officially abandon any hope of getting a new deal here, though I'm wondering if franchising him will wind up costing us a shot at extending Butler at a decent price. Church and Sensa looked good, Carter made a nice showing. I'd like a better look at the some of the corners though.

Special teams was a circus.
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08-15-2012 , 11:52 AM
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Tight end Jason Witten potentially could be out for some time, possibly the rest of the preseason with an abdominal injury he suffered in the Oakland game Monday night. According to team sources, the injury is to the spleen area and surgery has been discussed, but it's not a likely option at this point.
Lets hope no surgery
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08-15-2012 , 12:13 PM
Let's just hope he's ok, period right now. Who was it a few years ago that had a spleen injury, Simms?
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08-15-2012 , 12:36 PM
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Let's just hope he's ok, period right now. Who was it a few years ago that had a spleen injury, Simms?
Yep, Chris Simms. I believe his spleen ruptured mid-game. Hopefully Witten's okay and it's as minor as a beat up spleen can be.
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08-15-2012 , 05:06 PM
Seem to remember the oline getting raped on the play was cause for Witten getting pwned.

Will be interesting to re-visit in two years to see how Decastro/Konz vs Claiborne turns out.
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08-15-2012 , 08:15 PM
I remember people wanting to take DeCastro @ 14 or even trade up. I don't know how his career is going to turn out but 23 picks went off the board before him. Konz went #55 so that would have been a reach from where we were. The league just doesn't like drafting interior guys that high. Some teams do, for example Carolina and SF, but others like NO, GB, PHI & NYG have made fewer Day 1-2 oline picks and have been successful.

The fact is Dallas' failure has been at evaluating and developing lineman. Look at the more successful lines in the NFL and consider where they found most of their guys especially on the interior. Here's our o-line picks since 2002:

Gurode (C, high 2nd)*
Tyson Walter (G, 6th)
Al Johnson (C, high 2nd)*
Justin Bates (G, 7th)
Jacob Rogers (T, 2nd)
Stephen Peterman (G, 3rd)*
Rob Petiti (T, 6th)
McQuistan (T/G, 7th)*
E.J. Whitley (C, 7th)
James Marten (T, high 3rd)
Doug Free (T, 4th)*
Robert Brewster (G/T, 3rd)
Sam Young (T, 6th)
Tyron Smith (T, 9th overall)*
David Arkin (G, 4th)
Bill Nagy (G, 7th)

There are some decently high picks in that group but really? There's barely a starting lineup in there. You've got Gurode and Free who both took a few years to develop into decent players (and the jury is still kinda out on Free). Al Johnson was a very average player who started two years, Peterman a career starter in DET we gave up on. And where are the UDFAs we've developed in that time? The most productive undrafted o-lineman we've brought in were Tucker, Proctor, and now Costa.

Dallas has been just abyssmal at developing o-line talent, that's the problem. I don't know whether it was Sparano & Houck's work over those years, scouting, bad luck, scheme, or what. The picks are there, and remember that for a number of years we were starting Flozell and a little bit of Larry Allen too.

For the record, the Jones' said our 1/2 picks had we not traded were Brockers and LB Wagner. Neither appear to be pressing needs.
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08-16-2012 , 09:17 PM
Billy Nagy didn't clear waivers, & Lions picked him up. Wonder if he's the next Stephen Peterman?
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08-18-2012 , 10:11 PM
Officially pumped at our CB tandem. BRANDON CARRRRRRRRRRRR. The back end can FINALLY make some plays on the ball.

Barry Church actually a step up from Elam/Alan Ball? Olgetree confirmed not worthless?
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David Arkin still turrible tho.


Think we're a dog for a wild card but have a better shot then i thought.
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08-18-2012 , 10:35 PM
Pumped about the defense in general but Carr was beat pretty bad on that first INT.
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08-18-2012 , 10:44 PM
6 preseason quarters, 0 points against, with tons of key players missing. QBs are 70% complete and Murray looked good. Could be worse.

edit: AoA you are never making this team

Last edited by Gonso; 08-18-2012 at 10:53 PM.
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08-19-2012 , 12:31 AM
The 1s and 2s played pretty well. Not really worried about the McGee or AoA types giving up big plays
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08-19-2012 , 04:46 PM
really excited for the defense

really sad for the o-line

hope Romo doesn't die
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08-19-2012 , 06:13 PM
which reminds me: 0 new injuries
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08-20-2012 , 02:45 PM
S Taplin-Ross released. With Nagy also gone there are two roster spots available on the 90-man.
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08-20-2012 , 04:39 PM
Dez getting an MRI on his right knee after slipping on the field today. Hope it's nothing serious.

Andre Holmes has some sort of back injury, too.
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08-20-2012 , 06:42 PM
Dez just needs rest. Patellar tendinitis or something like that
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08-21-2012 , 01:15 AM
Jesus Romo is gonna have to GOAT this year to even get the team to .500
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