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Old 12-31-2017, 07:52 PM   #6826
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Re: Dallas Cowboys 2016: Hey, NFL! Get Ready to Suck Some Dak

I can say this for sure though - a year later I'm not missing Carr, Church, Wilcox, Claiborne, or Doug Free enough to feel bad about any of them.

Certainly not missing Sanchez, Dunbar, Whitehead, Escobar, Clearly, Ryan Davis, R. McClain, Gackhar, Josh Thomas.

Someone would point out Ron Leary, but then I'd point out that he got long-term deal averaging $9 million a season (mostly guaranteed) - so I feel very good about that move also. He appears to have played well for Denver as a RG but missed the final 5 games and ended up on IR. His exit also equates to our highest compensatory pick this draft, which could actually be a 3rd.

Terrell McClain and Jack Crawford were decent guys to have. But for the multi-million deals they got in FA, they were both PT players who totaled a combined 2 starts for their new teams, when healthy.

That leaves poor Tony Romo and I know there's some gnawing over that still with some, and there will be any time Dak isn't playing great for the next couple years. IMO it was still the right decision to make in the offseason, regardless of whether Dak holds up as a franchise guy. And I think Romo hung it up at the right time.

So with all those moves and dead money there's about $25m in 2018 cap space right this second, though expect some retooling and some serious decisions to be made with players like Dez, what to do with DLaw, Hitchens. Martin's contract. There's a lot they can do and even Witten isn't completely safe at this point. Draft picks to sign too. Sean Lee, Scandrick, T. Crawford are probably getting looked at but you won't save much with any unless you June 1 them (they all look more like trades or stay on another season). Tough to know what they're going to do with any of these guys since they can't keep all of them. And franchising DLaw will be a huge amount even that's not at all assured.

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Old 12-31-2017, 10:35 PM   #6827
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Re: Dallas Cowboys 2016: Hey, NFL! Get Ready to Suck Some Dak

Pick five spots later with the win today.

If this was like the old days where you could draft guys, keep them forever and underpay them I would feel like we're in good shape.

Really don't want to give D. Law top 5 pass rusher money even though he had a great year.
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Old 12-31-2017, 10:54 PM   #6828
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Re: Dallas Cowboys 2016: Hey, NFL! Get Ready to Suck Some Dak

Re: Witten - what are people's thoughts on him and the TE position situation? He has a straight $6.5m/year deal for the next four years, zero guaranteed, no dead money, so straight savings at any time he retires or they release him. For reference the top-paid TEs out there are in the $9m/year range.

He's still an every-down player and respectable blocker, and averaging a noteworthy 630 yards/4 TDs over the past 4 seasons as a receiver. He's worth the money, but turns 36 before camp starts and I wonder if that sort of money would be better spent retaining someone like Hitchens or some other asset that isn't facing imminent decline. I'm not sure either way, like I said the money seems right.

I know that James Hanna hasn't done enough to replace him and hasn't shown enough in games to be worth $3m next year. I mean 1 career TD in six seasons? Made his career high this year with 88 receiving yards? Blocking is an important thing here and he's decent at it but he's a pricey TE2.

Rico Gathers is a preseason legend with no reg game stats, Geoff Swaim looks like a usable depth guy, and they see enough in Blake Jarwin to protect him from the Eagles.

At the same time, Witten doesn't miss games and eats TE snaps, and for some reason this team goes really deep with tight ends. We've seen guys like Martellus Bennett and Anthony Fasano do next to nothing behind Witten and then go elsewhere and have some success.

I guess I don't see the sense in going 4 deep at TE when your TE1 is getting 900+ snaps and the rest are chopping up 400 snaps. They dress 3 which is fine and I get they like Jarwin and Gathers.

It's hard to read the Cowboys on this since obviously we're talking about Jason Witten. But why protect an UDFA like Jarwin, an unproven like Gathers and have the other guys around if you can't use them? The only clear conclusion I can take away is that paying both Witten and Hanna seems kind of goofy going forward. If Hanna isn't threatening Witten then he needs to go, a part time blocking TE isn't worth $3m.

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Old 12-31-2017, 11:43 PM   #6829
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Jason Garrett bringin home the bacon, baby!
Not that it's happening, but is there a consensus on who his replacement ought to be? I don't follow the coaching carousel too closely and am not really familiar with who the up-and-coming people are.

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Eh 5 spots, 19's a decent enough place to draft. Save more than 1.5 million and stick another L on Philadelphia for the history books. It's 66-52 all time in the matchups, and when aliens find the records of our dead civilization in a million years, hopefully this franchise dominance is recorded in their galactic archives.

Anyway that whole midrange outside of the top 10 picks is kind of blurry anyway. I'd feel it if they dropped from 1 to 4 over it just because of trade value, but this is NBD. If anybody kicks themselves over it, see this thing below.

That curve drops a virutally meaningless hair between those two draft positions, and that also overstates when used for draft value, since many of the higher-scoring players amass value with teams other than those that originally drafted them.



They'll have players with Rd1 grades there to pick from, and maybe even trade up from their 2nd for another one. Happier being an okay team than tank-masters like Cleveland, where it doesn't appear to be helping them.

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Old 01-01-2018, 12:01 AM   #6830
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Re: Dallas Cowboys 2016: Hey, NFL! Get Ready to Suck Some Dak

Just let Witten keep being Witten as long as he stays healthy. We have nobody good to replace him with at the moment.

The offensive line took a step back this season. Hopefully can address this somehow even if its just good depth.
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Old 01-01-2018, 12:22 AM   #6831
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Not that it's happening, but is there a consensus on who his replacement ought to be? I don't follow the coaching carousel too closely and am not really familiar with who the up-and-coming people are.
Replacement? All I want to know is how long the extension is gonna be! 8-8 is a thing of the past! See you later!
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Old 01-01-2018, 02:10 AM   #6832
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Good fortune/luck has certainly not done Garrett any favors in the post-season. Interesting how complete narratives change over a few games, some nobody making a play or even one star player making a play so the other star players or coach can be declared heroes. Jon Gruden- great football mind!

Maybe in an alternate universe Jared Cook drops the ball or Byron Jones makes a play and we beat the Packers at home in the playoffs and great things happen after that. Maybe not and Garrett is mediocre in the NFL in every simulation of life.
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Old 01-01-2018, 03:17 AM   #6833
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I would say providence has smiled upon Garrett greatly in his career...under any other owner he would not still be coach.

Maybe in an alternate universe Matt Cassel or Brandon Weeden could have done the impossible and managed to win a single game with a bad team...

Nah jk we cant expect the cowboys to overcome any kind of hindrance that GarrettBot can't foresee in the preseason....
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Old 01-01-2018, 01:33 PM   #6834
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Not many great football minds out there are going to let the owner retool his coaching staff and have a hand in personnel decisions. Think we're much more likely to end up with a Dave Campo type over a guy that is clearly better than Garrett.

Know 13-3 and 9-7 are pretty terrible with a brand new QB + can't make the great Matt Cassell into a stud but just not being Marvin Lewis brings me some joy.
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