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11-30-2014 , 02:16 PM
probably not.

she's gone all day which is just as well since she wasn't too happy that my "just gonna be gone for an hour" after the michigan game yday turned into her having to call my friend at 2am bc my phone had died..
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11-30-2014 , 02:50 PM
BALLHAWKING
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11-30-2014 , 02:51 PM
Leo!!!!!!
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11-30-2014 , 03:05 PM
EAD cundiff
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11-30-2014 , 03:48 PM
joe haden is so ****ing good, awesome that I get to watch him every weekend.

blocked a fg at the end of the half, picked a ball 3 plays into 3rd quarter.

sooo athletic
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11-30-2014 , 03:50 PM
Time to see what JFF is. We know what Hoyer is.
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11-30-2014 , 04:37 PM
Jesus****ingchrist
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11-30-2014 , 04:43 PM
what a trainwreck
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11-30-2014 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Time to see what JFF is. We know what Hoyer is.

thanks for your 1 weekly post itt.

and shocker, it's greearing about the quarterback.

if I had to take a guess, JFF is probably < hoyer which is why he's laughing on the sidelines in a jacket while hoyer leads the team to 3 points in 3 quarters...
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11-30-2014 , 04:48 PM
check that :-/
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11-30-2014 , 04:52 PM
Pro Tip:
< = less than
> = greater than
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11-30-2014 , 05:31 PM
Not as bad a day as it should have been. Steelers and ravens lose, bills still have to play pats, packers, and Broncos so that draft pick should still be decent, and get cozy in the john manziel time period.
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11-30-2014 , 05:56 PM
So...

JFC!!!! Not Jesuit Fried Chicken. Not Jesus F*cking Christ. Not Just Fieldgoal Cleveland...

Johnny F*cking Cleveland!!!!

Let do this and win out.
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11-30-2014 , 11:09 PM
Bitch ass nuggets. Recognize😳😳😳😳😁😔😔😌😒😒!!!!!
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12-03-2014 , 12:33 PM
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Jay Glazer ‏@JayGlazer 3m3 minutes ago
#Scoopage: The Manziel Era is NOT beginning in Cleveland yet as Brian Hoyer has been informed he will start this weekend vs Indy
DAMMIT
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12-03-2014 , 12:47 PM
Oh come the **** on. He must be awful in practice.
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12-03-2014 , 01:25 PM
LOL @ thinking a single flash in the pan drive means anything significant.
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12-04-2014 , 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by TomCollins
LOL @ thinking a single flash in the pan drive means anything significant.
The sample size makes it irrelevant from a box stat standpoint, but it's shows he's NFL capable. And that is something that was questionable before "the drive". I wish he had gone with Manziel because all other things being equal, which they're not, the Colts D would have a hard time prepping for Manziel. The fact that he's an unknown works both against us and for us. Lastly, we must also consider the strategy of deceiving opposing teams. If I was a head coach I'd use every single opportunity to misinform opponents. Creating false QB controversies is a great way to do that. Maybe Pettine always knew he'd start Hoyer? Maybe it's the opposite and he'll pull Hoyer after starting him for one series no matter what? Ultimately, I now trust the Browns coaching staff and front office enough to stand behind any decision they make.
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12-04-2014 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BuffaloHound
The sample size makes it irrelevant from a box stat standpoint, but it's shows he's NFL capable. And that is something that was questionable before "the drive". I wish he had gone with Manziel because all other things being equal, which they're not, the Colts D would have a hard time prepping for Manziel. The fact that he's an unknown works both against us and for us. Lastly, we must also consider the strategy of deceiving opposing teams. If I was a head coach I'd use every single opportunity to misinform opponents. Creating false QB controversies is a great way to do that. Maybe Pettine always knew he'd start Hoyer? Maybe it's the opposite and he'll pull Hoyer after starting him for one series no matter what? Ultimately, I now trust the Browns coaching staff and front office enough to stand behind any decision they make.
You realize how many absolute trash QBs "looked NFL capable" by those standards? How many crap Browns QBs have looked great for a game where they come in, then come back to earth? I bet even Weeden met that standard. Not saying Manziel will be that bad, he might even be good, but it's a lot to ask of him and I still don't think his ceiling is that much higher than Hoyer's. Hoyer's experience against NFL teams has to be worth quite a lot and unless you are giving up on a playoff run, I see no reason to change it up.

Sure, getting other teams having to prepare for multiple things is good. Having Johnny play a drive might be a good thing, and certainly matchups might be where it's better to put him in. Hoyer basically isn't getting that big contract extension now, and JFF isn't going anywhere, so why rush it?
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12-05-2014 , 01:08 AM
Because I believe that Manziel is an exceptional talent. And, most importantly, that he gives us the best chance to win now. The Browns need to put up some serious points to beat the Colts. I just don't think Hoyer is capable of doing that very often. I know supporting Manziel to play this game is a gamble. But at least with him I feel like we have a chance.
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12-05-2014 , 02:05 AM
I wouldn't be at all shocked with 3 interceptions and/or a defensive TD against Luck. he'll do that **** still
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12-05-2014 , 02:06 AM
and how can you say "with him I feel like we have a chance" when literally the last post you made started off talking about sample size?
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12-05-2014 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by wiper
and how can you say "with him I feel like we have a chance" when literally the last post you made started off talking about sample size?
He's an exceptional talent, bro!
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12-05-2014 , 04:10 PM
I wish they woulda went with manziel because basically...Hoyer isnt a longterm answer, hes decent, certainly having the best year of any browns Qb since DA in his probowl year, but hes really fallen apart last 4 games. Much more comfortable in Manziel as a longterm answer, but after hearing all the vets like Joe Thomas say that going with Manziel would basically mean they are giving up on the season i think they made the right choice and its not even close. Itll be interesting to see how Hoyer handles this adversity, he did great when JG and effectively Cameron was out and he had Hawkins as basically his #1 WR, but that was against sub par competition as well. Hope Browns win of course, hope hoyer crushes, but if browns sign him longterm i think its bad for them, drafted Manziel in first round for a reason, but no reason why he cant just keep watching for the rest of this year, unless they fall out of playoff race, then i hope they play him
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12-05-2014 , 05:05 PM
Walter, thanks for the call!
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