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08-19-2010 , 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tdomeski
I've been randomly reading a bunch of stuff on the internet about the Braves run through the 90s and the different teams, etc. I was youngish back then and have had some free time so been doing a lot of reading.

Anyways, was there a backstory to the Justice + Grissom trade to Cleveland for Lofton + Embree or was that just a pure value deal? I remember at the time (being 11) not really liking it just because I looked at it in the rather simple way of losing 2/3 of our outfield for 1 OF'er. Results-oriented it turned out pretty horrible with Justice lighting it up for another few years, but what were your thoughts of the deal at the time? Was it well received or not?
I hated that trade so much. Lofton never wanted to be here vs Grissom being a great teammate for that team, and his bug eyes were legendary. Grissom had just came off 23 HR, woba of .360, Justice 24 HR the 1995 year woba of .366 (I hated his flashy for no reason defense that cost multiple games in my memory though), and we replaced them with an outfielder who didn't want to be here, and who's #s dropped in every category here, it was all for **** anyways as the Marlins were unbeatable, and Lofton bolted the next year back to Cleveland. We essentially got not one damn thing out of this trade. Boooooo to that trade and Kenny Lofton in general. If not the worst, def top 2 worst moves from Schurholtz IMO

Last edited by gmcarroll33; 08-19-2010 at 09:59 AM.
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08-19-2010 , 10:26 AM
With the Giants and Cards continuing to collapse, it's looking a lot more and more like the NL postseason is going the be Braves, Phils, Reds, and Padres. All four of those teams are on really big heaters right now, with 4+ game win streaks.

In other news,

DAYGAME

(sorry to take your job Borgland)
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08-19-2010 , 11:05 AM
I would be really happy if the Cards didnt make the playoffs.
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08-19-2010 , 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by AngerPush
I didn't say it was a bad move or even that those players will be missed. You took way too much out of my comment. Just think it's funny that just because ppl see "prospect" and haven't ever heard of a given player, means that it's giving up nothing. I used to think like that too, back when I was like 13. "Oh hey we gave up prospects to get a Major Leaguer ZOMG GREAT TRADE!!!"



Yeah. I do realize that.
Ok, when I think we just disagreeing on the term "nothing." Obv, we are giving up something. I think I should've said we are giving up nothing "significant."
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08-19-2010 , 12:05 PM
Oh 93 what a race. Great article thanks
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08-19-2010 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by T50_Omaha8
With the Giants and Cards continuing to collapse, it's looking a lot more and more like the NL postseason is going the be Braves, Phils, Reds, and Padres. All four of those teams are on really big heaters right now, with 4+ game win streaks.

In other news,

DAYGAME

(sorry to take your job Borgland)
I didn't know it was a day game. Good job.
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08-19-2010 , 01:06 PM
And know I have to go outside where the world is. The horror, the horror.

At least I get to listen to Sutton on the radio.
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08-19-2010 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchL
Ok, when I think we just disagreeing on the term "nothing." Obv, we are giving up something. I think I should've said we are giving up nothing "significant."
Yep, that's it. It may sound like semantics, but the Cubs were giving up "less than nothing," just getting rid of half his salary would have been a plus for them and I don't know if they could have traded him to another team that he would agree to go to, so the fact that we gave up something even if not that significant is kind of weird to us but obv it is explainable, the Cubs maximized their leverage.

Anyway, sorry for questioning your GM abilities, I approve of you as GM now!!! MITCHLLLLLLLL FOOORRRRR GMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!
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08-19-2010 , 01:47 PM
Oh Hinske, needed Lee's Gold Glove defense this inning.
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08-19-2010 , 02:47 PM
Come on Prado
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08-19-2010 , 02:50 PM
K, guys, on the comeback trail, let's DO IT.
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08-19-2010 , 02:54 PM
Diaz cuts it in half. LETS GOGOGOGOGO!!!
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08-19-2010 , 02:56 PM
WTF was that ****?
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08-19-2010 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Pwn_Master
WTF was that ****?
facepalm.jpg
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08-19-2010 , 03:00 PM
Gonzo is really starting to annoy me.
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08-19-2010 , 03:26 PM
Does anyone who has been watching Bravos baseball last couple weeks have any doubt about WIM anymore? We're winning this game
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08-19-2010 , 03:31 PM
bad call but we'll take it

bravos not losing this game
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08-19-2010 , 03:31 PM
oh man

1st no outs
jeyhey prado diaz bmac coming up

we got thissssss
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08-19-2010 , 03:32 PM
jeyhey trying to hit that one in to centennial park
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08-19-2010 , 03:33 PM
clippard has awful control
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08-19-2010 , 03:33 PM
AHAHAHA NO OUTS FIRST AND SECOND PRADOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

TOMAHAWK CHOP
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08-19-2010 , 03:34 PM
NO BUNT ****KKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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08-19-2010 , 03:35 PM
sigh wtf was prado bunting
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08-19-2010 , 03:35 PM
god i hate calling bunt with prado at the plate there, what a ****ing awful bunt too

a double play there woulda sent me in to orbit
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08-19-2010 , 03:36 PM
Really Bobby, really? Why are you trying to hold back Prado's WIM?
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