Just a. FYI. As most of you know the PayPal account I use isn't mine and a lot of the money was misused. I have paid most of the people back already. Waiting on one person who won a small amount back to send me his info and I will pay him. I've already talked to irvingpoker who won the 2qb. I owe him 3000 and have already talked to him about paying him back that will be paid as soon as possible.

On top of that I lost 6400 in side bets in the 1500 and I have let them know it's going to take me time to pay them back. Once Irving is paid I will take care of them as soon as I can. Any questions or concerns please post in here.

Well done, guys.

Glad everyone took my warnings about this guy seriously and nobody got scammed.

Warnings about wesrwood?

I love the way you just lumped this into a thread from last year where everyone is confirming payment. Makes it look like not a scam & I'm sure it's not unintentional.
WTF happened to somebody else that's trusted & actually has money escrowing all your leagues?
Typical scammer BS blaming somebody else that "misused" the funds in an account that he's somehow using. Geez, I wonder why he can't get his own Paypal account to transfer large sums of money around? Scammer alert.
Yeah, this story totally checks out.
How long until the thread where he stops all contact & you guys realize it's all a stall & you're never getting paid? That's how scammers work.

Wow

I didn't hold the money for
The big league. The winner of tang league has been paid. 2nd place will be paid for that as soon as he comes along and tell me and the escrow where he will be paid.

The money owed isn't from the league it's from sidebets.

I owe one person from the league and I've been making him payments.

And for anyone from the other website asking about my paypal . My PayPal was closed when I had to dispute one of your members scamming me on a trade.

Nice trolling.

Let's get your facts straight. Westwood didn't escrow his big league; a "well respected" member of the high-stakes forum did.

Also, Wesrwood is delinquent in his side bet payments. You see the amounts. I don't have that kind of money lying around. If I got annihilated for those sums of money, I'd be on a payment plan, too.

Have you been in one of his leagues? Have you been in others? I've been in 15 leagues in the past two years, five of Wesrwood's. Everything about his leagues is better. He communicates early and often. He's a good recruiter. He gets commitments from his guys locked in way earlier than most other commissioners (Sir Rawrs is great at these things too).

That said, I agree that this info shouldn't have been lumped at the bottom of last year's thread; it needed its own thread. However, you're just wrong. Troll elsewhere assclown.

Nice try. Who cares if he didn't escrow the "big league" he escrowed this one & only begrudgingly did not escrow the big one. This could have been a worse disaster than it is.

The 3K he mentions in his post that he owes irvingpoker was for winning a 2QB league. From what I read the side bets are on top of that. $6400 in sidebets with somebody who admitted earlier he didn't have that kind of money is insane.

This guy shouldn't be escrowing any league since he admitted he didn't have that kind of money to cover if things went south & he didn't even have a way to pay. The part about using somebody else's Paypal(WTF) & they misappropriated the funds is laughable even if it's true, which I don't believe for a second. After everything that was revealed about him last September by chinamaniac & Killowatt how can anyone give him the benefit of the doubt? How? Because he ran a league or 2 last year?

I did notice that nobody came into this thread & confirmed any payments like they were all to willing to do last year. This doesn't seem odd to you?

You'll also notice there wasn't 1 update after his statement on Jan. 10th until yesterday even though he says he's been making payments. WTF? If I owed money & truly wanted to make good on it I'd be posting something/anything & getting everybody that did get paid from the league to confirm. Silence for 12 days sets off alarm bells.

Hope everybody gets paid but I wouldn't count on it. Even if they do, you have to admit, his escrowing days are over, at least on this account.

I'm not going to respond to those who haven't participated in my leagues.

The band of idiots from neverwin has no right to come in here. They have a vendetta against me from years ago and they bring nothing to this thread.

I haven't had anyone come in here and confirm their payments because I haven't paid everyone on time and I don't deserve references from doing that. Irvingpokers money will be finished being paid out immediately and the side bet money too. I will update as each person is completely paid.

**** went south in your fantasy pool dude. You're gonna get flak especially after the questions about you back in Sept & the way you tried to defend yourself.

You can claim some non-existent vendetta all you want, but the facts are some real **** happened in you paying the people who won in the pool as well as side bets, which was predicted, & there is a really suspect explanation about using somebody else's Paypal & blaming somebody else. BTW I've never set foot on neverwin or DD's website so I'm not part of the "vendetta".

If you think you don't deserve references tell them to come confirm payment but they were paid slow.

Typical scammer **** refusing to answer question if they weren't in their pool & that's a fact.

Again, hopefully everyone gets paid but regardless, your escrowing days are over & if you're legit, even you have to admit that.

I hate escrowing for this reason so I'm not worried about that.

Everyone else has been paid already but Irving and the sidebets. I'm not going to go back and ask them to post in here. Most of them view these forums everyday so if they want to say they were paid but paid slow go ahead. I paid Irving 1000 and owe him 2000 more.

NHG seems mad.

If you "hate escrowing", then stop doing it.

Here you scammed people in the past for small amounts, were caught lying countless times, and now were escrowing money for a league.

You claim the Paypal account "got misused", yet you won't name the person who misused the funds or give out their information.

You owe someone $2000 (once $3000) from those escrowed funds.

You also made $6400 in sidebets you couldn't cover.

And somehow there's nothing wrong with all of this in your eyes?

LOL

Get out of my thread Todd. I never scammed anyone. I was scammed on your site though and you did nothing about it which makes you a scammer

1) When were you scammed on my site? Who scammed you?

2) How is it my fault that you got scammed? Is it Mason Malmuth's fault that you scammed people on 2+2?

3) If you didn't scam anyone, why do you owe $2000 that was supposed to be in escrow, along with $6400 for sidebets you couldn't cover?

I'm paying the money and I don't remember his name it was years ago. I told you about it and you dismissed it and gave me the punching bag

Does this mean the playoff league will have a delayed payment?

No that's going to be paid out the Monday after the superbowl or the Tuesday

What? You don't think he should be called out?

He was at least 3K short to pay out a league he was escrowing with no explanation other than the dog ate my homework. Then he's betting large sums with $ he doesn't have, I'm presuming because he knew he was f***ed.

Do you guys realize how incredibly lucky that questions about his character were brought up & he was forced to not be the escrow for his "big league" otherwise you'd be out a lot more?

Who in their right mind escrows from an account that they don't even have control over & who in their right mind doesn't question that?

He owes the community, he asked to trust him, a better explanation than that.

Nobody finds it odd that he's stating that he doesn't like to escrow but when Killowatt offered to escrow wesrwood didn't go for that option or leaguesafe? He only begrudgingly gave up escrowing the "big league" because of the questions about him.

Todd wittelles didn't offer to escrow my league nor would I associate with that scumbag in anyway.

If you read up he stood by as I was scammed and laughed and you don't know my situation and you weren't in my league so I don't need to answer your questions. If I owed you money you would know what happened. And everyone will be paid soon. I have no clue who you are or why you care

I chose to post this myself. I could have stayed silent and just paid everyone but that's not the type of person I am

You calling somebody a scumbag that has no scandals or financial impropriety associated to his name is laughable.

You came on a public forum & asked everybody, not just the people who eventually joined your leagues, to trust you to escrow these leagues & you've miserably failed. If you don't think you owe the whole community a better explanation than some unidentified person stole your money then I don't know what to say.

If I was legit & questioned about it here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...9/index11.html
& here:
http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/sho...-2-2-users-now
I would make damn sure the situation you're in right now didn't occur but it obviously did.

You owe it to everybody to post exactly what happened & give a detailed explanation publicly. If it's all true, all the participants in the league that you've been corresponding with will be able to confirm for themselves that you haven't been talking out both sides of your mouth.

If that "scumbag" & chinamaniac didn't come forward & say anything you would have escrowed the "big league" & more money would have been stolen & you would have been on the hook for that too so you should probably thank them for saving you a bunch of money instead of trying to discredit them.

In conclusion, you're full of **** dude.

BTW I'm looking forward to the defending myself from the libel lawsuit that's sure to come.

wesrwood, what happened with the paypal account?
as someone who seriously considered joining one of your leagues it would be nice to know the whole story. i cant really think of any way to get legitimately scammed via paypal to be honest.
did the league know that the account was not "yours" when it was decided you would escrow?

I didn't get scammed. It's a family members PayPal account.

It's been a running joke in the wrestling forum for years since it's in a woman's name. And they took the money coming .

It's still my responsibility to pay it back which I am in the process of doing. They had promised me the money would be back before it was due which is what screwed me the most.