Most sites do not have Bundesliga contest due to player copyright issues I think and those that had Bundesiga contests on offer they soon got rid of it. Guessing they got nice lawyer letters from the league. I do not use Skype, just Twitter and FB.

Sorry I don't use Skype just twitter.

Postal address is in Malta so imagine they have applied for an MGA licence. Sites that have offered Bundesliga contests dropped it pretty quickly due to reasons explained in this thread.

Think owners might be German but not 100%.

You can also say what you dislike. It's part of the discussion you mentioned.

As long as the stat provider is consistent, I like peripheral stats that to some degree are possible to predict and to some degree are (seemingly) random. Shots/Shots on Target/Assisted Shots/Aerials Won/Fouls Drawn/Tackles/Interceptions/Clearances/Succesful Crosses etc.

If you zoom out you can get half of each position in one go ;-)

Oh wow, thanks! How messed up does something have to be so that the amount of stuff you copy when doing ctrl-A cntrl-C depends on zoom?

Hey Garrincha67!

My name is Andreas Sundal and I'm CPO at FanTeam.
Great to read some feedback on our salary-pricing.

The single gameweek pricing is based on:
- Next opponent, how difficult is the match?
- Recent form for player
- Importance for team
- Predicted scoring/historical scoring
- ++

The idea is that it should not be possible to pick just stars, but you need to compromise and pick some stars and some lower priced-players that can do well.

However we are always looking for ways to improve our products, so if you have feedback and/or ideas I'd love to hear from you or anyone else in this thread at andreas@scoutgaminggroup.com.

We got some tickets that I can grant users with good ideas or feedback

BTW; we just released predicted lineups for most of our leagues, how do you think that works out?

Thanks,

Andreas Sundal
CPO
andreas@scoutgaminggroup.com

Hello Andreas,
Nice to see you posting here. Just one quick question. Do you plan to change the scoring system so other skills like tacklings, crosses, shots on target etc. will be rewarded?

I'm interested in this too.

Hello Greel13!

We don't have any immediate plans to change our scoring to include these parameters for football/soccer (for hockey and basketball we have some of these).

The reason for this is that we believe in keeping it simple (reference; Fantasy Premier League official game) to attract interest from not only you sharks

Also, you could discuss that some of these stats (I saw someone linking to Yahoo Fantasy scoring) does not have a true impact on the game or the performance of the player nor the team.
Examples: "Shots = 0.5p" ; We don't believe in awarding a player just because he launched a shot, it could be a terrible shot that goes no way near the goal. There will also be cases where it's hard to determine if it was a shot or pass.

Some of the stats are also highly subjective at some times, and calculated differently from stat-provider to stat-provider. We also believe that it is hard to follow ingame for the casual player.

We are soon launching a sportsbetting-module for our products, where you can bet on Fantasy events, duels between players, operator-created Fantasy-teams against eachother, and so on.
Having a clear and non-arguable scoring-system will help our players and ourself to avoid discussions or complaints.

That beeing said, we are always looking to improve our scoring, and have a very low threshold to add and test out different scoring-types.

Our scoring is far from perfect, so if you have concrete suggestions of type to add, feel free to suggest and we can test it out together with you in some private tournaments if we believe its viable.
Scoring types should in our opinion be:
- Inflect the game directly in either a positive or negative direction
- Objective, non-discussable
- Easy to follow and understand during the game for casual players
- Easy to verify/see in all major leagues

Here you can btw see our current football-scoring:
https://www.fanteam.com/support-center/football-rules

Hey Andreas, great to see you on here. I have gone through what you have said and understand where you are coming from. I actually like the scoring as it is and prefer the FPL based scoring that the more detailed scoring.

I always consider from betting/DFS that the things I value are winning, time and enjoyment. Nobody can win every week but I am happy to go back if I enjoy the site and it doesn't take up too much of my time. This is the problem with the budget you set, it does make you compromise drastically, but this means you have to spend a lot more time than you do on other sites and are forced to pick poor players which really takes away a lot of the fun.

Due to this I won't spend any money on FanTeam until the budget is drastically softened (and haven't spent a great deal since I last raised it in 2015). I can appreciate that you are unlikely to make such a fundamental change based on just my view. I just think that fantasy football is a challenge enough without you having to make it harder than it needs to be at the cost of both fun and time.

Thanks for your feedback WorldCupDB.
Good input and I definetly see your side of this as well.

Could you do me a favour? Could you try to create a team here:
https://www.fanteam.com/participate/29988/new/e30=

and let me know approx. how much more budget you would need for that tournament for it to fit your needs (and also not be too soft)?
In june 2016 we moved away from the previous price-provider we had in 2015, and have now our own department that deals with prices and updates for players etc.

Thanks,

Andreas Sundal
CPO
andreas@scoutgaminggroup.com

To be honest I'd want 30m more, that would make it pretty soft but thats how I prefer it. I reckon 15m more gives you a level where a decent team can be made without the feeling you are just putting anybody in for the sake of it.

Hope that helps

Great, thanks.

I`ll take this forward with our pricing-department and keep this in mind for next evaluation.
30M I`m sure we cant do, but I`ll research and see if we can make it a bit softer for next round.

Nice to hear from you Andreas and much appreciate it you coming to the forum to read our feedback/suggestions. I for certain like the variety of leagues and multi-sports you have on the platform. Also there is a lot of variety at buy-in levels in most contests and so that is very good.

Agreed that salary should not be loose/soft to the point it makes picking all the star players easy. But for example Yahoo have launched their daily platform in recent weeks and their salary budget is at 200 so allowing flexibility in drafting a team under their tight player salary. So that is one way to do it or to tweak down the match-up aspect and up the recent form part of the algorithm when deciding salary.

Heaton for Burnley is at priced 4.4 for this weekend due to his bad match up and should be priced higher as he is a goalie in good form. While Carrol for West Ham is priced at 11.4 due to his good match-up but has not done anything this season and should be priced much lower if form consideration is upped in the algorithm.

As a previous poster mentioned on most cases we are left with such a small salary after drafting the first 11 players, the bench spot player will be a total dud who is not a first team player we pick just because he is very cheap. Last Week Southampton rotated their defence and bench player will not have made a difference.

Will send you more detailed feedback by email using specific examples from the games in the coming weeks for the holiday season.

Thank You

Great examples Garrincha67.
It`s hard not to agree with those two cases.

We are upgrading our pricing algorythm these days, to take some more factors into consideration. I will bring your views with me.

Best regards,

Andreas Sundal
CPO
andreas@scoutgaminggroup.com

Form (other than tiredness/halfinjury) is just a theoretical concept that might not even exist in reality. Especially when it comes to goalkeepers.

That is an interesting discussion but up to each fantasy gamer/bettor to decide what is form or what is just noise that will regress to the mean. Salary prices by the various DFS platforms are exploitable as long as they are set within reason.

So Carroll was a dud at his 11.4 price as he has done nothing all season including the match today. My query is how is the 11.4 salary price reached ?

As for Heaton, he surely is the top goalie in the premier league for shots saved and Burnley might stay up in the league due to his heroics. Did you watch his performance at Man United when he made over 11 saves ? That is form based on reality and hard evidence. Surely he merits more than a measly 4.4 salary regardless the match up based on his performance at home & away.

Anyway good to see FanTeam are willing to listen to feedback from the players/customers and we can help them polish their platform in having a dynamic salary pricing.

Anyone heard anything from Mondo since they officially closed for business?

Nothing much, we heard from their head guy Shergul on Twitter saying that remaining customers funds will be refunded by bank transfer. Made my request and awaiting for the bank transfer. Luckily did not have much left there, just playing money.

Has everybody got their money back from Mondogoal? Someone has tweeted me to say they got their money back on Friday so hopefully everyone is going to be sorted out.

nope. Good news though, crossing fingers for my last 30 quids.

Somebody invested in Oulala and Draftkings plans to expand to more european countries.

http://www.legalsportsreport.com/123...a-dfs-funding/

How do you UK/NA people like DK for soccer?

DK scoring is almost as bad as FPL.com scoring. Both games kinda require you to pick the goalscorers for the most part.

When FD and DK merge, if they take DK scoring for soccer, I will be looking elsewhere. Incidentally, I would still play US sports on DK, merely as I am not sure where else I can play them as a UK customer. Giving points for crossing the ball straight out of play makes me feel like they played "pick a stat out of the bag" and assigned points to it. Literally no relevance to the game of football.

FPL scoring is archaic and horrible, there is little reward week to week. The reason is it so successful is that it is a season long game, so mates play in groups and it's a focus of conversation weekly.

When it comes to daily fantasy, the level of enjoyment earned from scoring in only 3 stat places, is way less than that of say Fan Duel, where chances created is a remarkable stat.

Sharks will circle wherever the water is deep enough, in all honesty, a casual player has more chance of winning when variance is higher, otherwise maths makes things solvable. DK kinda have it right with more scoring categories, they just need to be more refined to be a better game.

What needs to be avoided is "pick all the scorers to win", otherwise I could make some ridiculous anytime goalscoring accumulator and win so much more for less time and financial investment.

I have now played most DFS sports in all sorts of platforms. Golf, NFL and NBA seems best for gameplay on DK. You can find NBA and Golf in other European platforms still with less sharks around. Even Yahoo now offers that too here so there is a lot of choice outside the big two.

DK soccer product leads in prize pools, but besides the point and does not make up for a very poor scoring/game play. Agreed on Fan Duel scoring having much more depth and a challenge to master. So hopefully they do not scrap it when they merge and adopt it. It does not look good though as Fan Duel soccer US version is 8 person rooster.

As you rightly point out one can do anytime goal scorer or even betting on fantasy props with bookmakers now. Coral have recently started a product solely based on players stats. Buabook does that as well with one of the best polished platforms around for the major European Leagues. Even Squwaka have a betting platform that launched recently that allows fantasy bet props. Why waste your time drafting under salary, battling with deep pocket sharks and where contest are decided on silly stats such 'any crosses' ?

FPL official game is okay as a seasonal game but never been fan of captain option and obsessing all week about who to captain. If Yahoo run a seasonal FPL game next season like they do with Yahoo cup for NFL and NBA with cash prizes that will be a lot of fun.

http://www.betandskill.com/player-be...s-betting.html

https://bet.squawka-gaming.com/sport...TASY_FOOTBALL/

https://www.buabook.com/player-stats-analysis